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  • Kerismatic
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    Kstef, I'll try to see your point of view every step though and see if I can make you understand the other viewpoint as well (though not necessarily change your opinion/values).

    1. When it comes to the value of balen, what people pay is what it's worth. That's just economics, you may have different ideas of the value (or the lack of) value of things than others. - I am a firm believer that people get to spend money wherever and whenever they want (with some legal restrictions), if that's inside a phone game as a hobby then maybe that's more sustainable than alcohol or drugs; to me (even if addiction has struck) a balen addiction seems much healthier than a ketamine one.

    2. Misusing the opportunity KABAM has given them? What opportunity is that exactly? The one were we are offered to pay for getting stronger, paying the salaries of the workers, developing the game and feeling like we get value out of our money or are you talking about the opportunity to spend 16 hours per day waiting for bounties to refresh and getting the "Grim Reaper" title? (For reference, you can see the average salaries of KABAM employees here, these figures I found through 10 seconds of using a search engine. Keep in mind this doesn't include electricity, serverchecks, emergency tech support etc etc.) You may argue that these salaries aren't fair even or you may think that if these people don't get their money they won't do any work at all and thousands of players will be without a functioning game, probably angry and annoyed at the money they spent so that you can enjoy the free features (WB, MPD, SPD, Spire, Tanks, Bound balen, BG, solo arena, PvP, Sylphs, Sylph arena, crypts, farm, bounty quests, soon circuit quests, to some extent Necropolis, guild tree, GB, meeting people, amethyst mines etc etc.) has essentially ran out of value.

    3. It's all about investment, you talk about true players as non-cashing and dedicated at the same time you talk about addicts as sometimes missed things because of work cashers. I know a player who had one alarm for each invaderspawn, one for each WB, one for each tanks (back when the bug worked) one for GB, one for tree and I would assume probably farm had some alarms in there as well because why not? To me, that signals more of an addiction than showing up once or twice a day, do MPD, WB (with balen or without), maybe tree and miss PvP quite a bit of the time as some of the heavier cashers do. Do you honestly and wholeheartedly think that your time is worth more than my, Jygero or even your close friends on your server's money? If so I guess that's your priorities and you'll probably stick by them no matter what reasoning is presented.

    4. This game doesn't NEED spending anymore than Candy Crush Saga does, everyone who puts in money choses to do so. This is partly because of the competitive enviroment of the game, but in some cases also because they WANT to feel they contribute. Complaining about how much others spend and claiming they're addicted seems awkward at best to me. I have personally NEVER spent money on this game that I needed elsewhere and I utterly hope that this is true for almost everyone else who plays this game too, my choise was that I wanted something long-lasting for my investment. Because of my spending I rank better in CW, get more gold/daru from WB, rank higher in solo arena, get further in Necropolis, get more Experience and so forth. These things aren't just a one time: "Spend $100 and get +XYZ BR" and my personal spending allows me to invest my bound balen into the World Bosses I can attend instead of on Crypt Keys.

    That's just my two cents, but I might be highly unreasonable.

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  • kstef1975
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    Originally posted by Mhael_2002 View Post
    Hi Guys,

    I totally agree with Jygero. I am one of the biggest cashers on my server, and I only spend money I don't need in real life ... I see it as a hobby that cost money. Nobody forces me to spend, and I am not addicted to the game as a sickness, I only like it much. And if I have problems and send a ticket, a get a reply in 24h hours and a solution within 3 days ... so from my point of view the customer service is great.

    And due to my BR, because I am a casher, I face bad comments from non-cashers, as they have no chance ... but some events - especially Amethyst Mine - force us to attack each other ... but don't blame us cashers, blame KABAM for bad brackets or whatever.

    No one is forced to play, no one is forced to be a casher ... Everybody should enjoy the game, it is clear that some can spend more than others to this game.

    Mhael
    Server EU37
    This game reflects a modern society to some extend, especially one that is based on a capitalistic system. You dont mind paying to [email protected] the hottest girl but I do mind showing feelings. Non cashers are the true players of this game and those who deserve respect..because they choose to take the road less travelled by..cashers misuse the opportunity Kabam has given everyone due to addiction or need to feed the ego..from psychological point of view must also be bad losers in real life. If you consider it as hobby where you invest money you dont need then we might hear the same excuse from the gamblers in Vegas..sorry mchael you don't win respect by cheating but by hard work and effort..a word of advice to all cashers: go out and discover how real life is before it's too late..

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  • Mhael_2002
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    Hi Guys,

    I totally agree with Jygero. I am one of the biggest cashers on my server, and I only spend money I don't need in real life ... I see it as a hobby that cost money. Nobody forces me to spend, and I am not addicted to the game as a sickness, I only like it much. And if I have problems and send a ticket, a get a reply in 24h hours and a solution within 3 days ... so from my point of view the customer service is great.

    And due to my BR, because I am a casher, I face bad comments from non-cashers, as they have no chance ... but some events - especially Amethyst Mine - force us to attack each other ... but don't blame us cashers, blame KABAM for bad brackets or whatever.

    No one is forced to play, no one is forced to be a casher ... Everybody should enjoy the game, it is clear that some can spend more than others to this game.

    Mhael
    Server EU37

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  • MonkeyFeet_S67
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    getting "one hit" sucks

    Hey, thanks for paying for the game, but please, if you can one hit people, move on to tougher targets.

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  • kstef1975
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    Originally posted by STAR_USE41 View Post
    I'm sorry.... I didn't know you determine what's necessary for my toon. But I understand, you can't spend as much money on this game as I can and your upset about it. Your insults mean absolutely nothing and only speaks to your character. Junkie out
    I feel like a voice crying out in the wilderness...I'm gonna buy a balenmeter and run balentests..to all you balenholics..Kabam feeds you illusions and you bite..since you need to feed your ego..

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  • STAR_USE41
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    Originally posted by kstef1975 View Post
    first of all its almost impossible not to spend at all. Those mf..have their ways to make you spend. But there's a big difference between spending what's necessary and becoming a junkie..an addict..a thing that is being exploited..they make millions our of idiots like yourselves..
    I'm sorry.... I didn't know you determine what's necessary for my toon. But I understand, you can't spend as much money on this game as I can and your upset about it. Your insults mean absolutely nothing and only speaks to your character. Junkie out

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  • guapp
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    Originally posted by kstef1975 View Post
    first of all its almost impossible not to spend at all. Those mf..have their ways to make you spend. But there's a big difference between spending what's necessary and becoming a junkie..an addict..a thing that is being exploited..they make millions our of idiots like yourselves..

    I agree 100 percent with this post.

    I only spend when I need something ,socketing rods, pieces for sets and lucky wheel at times . Not on thechest with like a 1 percent drop rate of a damn mount or freaking magic pot.

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  • kstef1975
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    Originally posted by STAR_USE41 View Post
    Too much Logic!
    first of all its almost impossible not to spend at all. Those mf..have their ways to make you spend. But there's a big difference between spending what's necessary and becoming a junkie..an addict..a thing that is being exploited..they make millions our of idiots like yourselves..

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  • STAR_USE41
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    Originally posted by Tiffanies View Post
    You know, I am not the sharpest tool in the shed, but doesn't the money spent by "cashers" pay the support team, developers, host forums, hardware and even the electricity for the servers that host the game that non-"cashers" like to play?

    Just a thought.

    ~Tiff

    Too much Logic!

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  • Karl4emma
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    What the original poster means is... Thank u those who cash you keep this game free to play for the rest of us... Like i say on myserver. If u dont like the cashers then u have 2 options. Join a pay to play game with no in app purchase. Or u can cash urself. If u dont want to do eithen then stfu and play your free to play game thanks to those who do want to purchase balens to get a head start or those rarer items.

    Have a great day.

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  • Sonja1220
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    Well said jygero. I agree I had the bugged gear from lucky wheel it took 5 tickets and 2 months for them to finally replace items. I was constantly getting the our team are looking into it.. I had to ask finally why can't you just replace these items, which they finally did. I got box's for my time which held nothing like all the other box's we can get.

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  • Jygero johnson
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    Originally posted by kstef1975 View Post
    Actually most of cashers are addicted to this game..same way gamblers are with gambling..and when someone spends a lot makes things worse for the rest of us, who try to play in a modest way...prices won't ever drop, tickets will be answered less and less over time..rewards already suck..COSMOS has stopped visiting servers..etc the only way to make Kabam hear our voice is by stop spending ruthlessly and by giving a low rating to the game..I think we deserve to be on the focus..
    admittedly, I am probably one of the biggest cashiers in the game. In my house, I have an agreement to donate 10x as much as I spend on the game. For me, I can confidently say that what I spend comes from 100% disposable income and hardly is missed. With that been said, I do agree with you. As a parent of three kids, I share concern that a good majority of players are either under age and shouldn't be spending money that could be spent more wisely or are people who are addicted to a game and experience the same symptoms that gamblers experience.
    Unfortunately, the laws that protect gamblers have not been enforced when it comes to online games. The state of California currently has some open lawsuits that pertain to online gambling. I see balens purchased as being no different than chips that are issued by a casino. The only difference is that casinos are regulated versus something like the wheel or those boxes that give mounts.

    If you are under 18, I would recommend contacting your states Attorney Generals office via your parents.

    Perhaps, Kabam may step up in providing a gaming experience that mirrors a fraction of the money spent in the game. In other words, get your **** together and provide some decent customer service.

    You would figure that when someone spends money on something, they may get something in return. In lieu of being responsive to tickets, they hide behind some BS auto response. Many of you work hard for your money. I would demand more or proceed to contact your local government in attempting to get your money back. For me, they could keep it as long as they would train their customer service reps to realize that the customer is what keeps them employed and also keeps them out of a class action lawsuit for allegedly violating on king gambling statutes.

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  • Topper81
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    Ive had no response from kabam about missing items from my invent and i submitted a ticket 1 week ago so the team are not very good !

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  • Tiffanies
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    You know, I am not the sharpest tool in the shed, but doesn't the money spent by "cashers" pay the support team, developers, host forums, hardware and even the electricity for the servers that host the game that non-"cashers" like to play?

    Just a thought.

    ~Tiff

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  • COSMOSLAVASH
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    sorry to hear you are unhappy, but the information is not very accurate
    a lot of people happily enjoy the game and play every day and have fun

    as for tickets there is a whole team working every day to answer tickets so nothing has reduced

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