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  • Is the illusion astral working properly?

    I've had the level 4 one equipped for a few days now, and it's supposed to give me an 8% chance of dodging damage, but I see the effect so rarely it feels more like 0.8%. It should be a really useful astral, but it's actually been really disappointing.

    Has anyone else with this astral noticed the same thing?

  • #2
    Did an actual test with a level 5 enhanced illusion astral and recorded 649 attacks against me with 13 activations.

    That gives a 2.00% rate of activation with a 95% confidence interval of 0.92%-3.08%.

    Am I just misunderstanding what "10% chance of dodging damage" means?

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    • #3
      I have a relection astral which give 10% chance to relect damage.
      Sometime it did show in the whole battle. But sometime it worked 2 hits in a row.
      It was so fun to see someone has stats over 25% of your stats do the ultimate attack and got the relect back and died.

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      • #4
        Ive got a level 6 illusion for a 12% dodge chance and have used it for a long time.
        Although i still use and find it useful I would have to say my gut feeling is it works
        Half as often as they say.

        Thats just a gut feel, no science involved. I may if I have the time double check but
        This issue with dodge (and reflect) has been around so long without I believe any
        Official word that im not sure research is going to help.

        A pity its a nice astral if working as advertised and a bit of excitement for those with
        Will destryoyer builds.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Twiggled View Post
          Did an actual test with a level 5 enhanced illusion astral and recorded 649 attacks against me with 13 activations.

          That gives a 2.00% rate of activation with a 95% confidence interval of 0.92%-3.08%.

          Am I just misunderstanding what "10% chance of dodging damage" means?
          I think 10% chance just means "don't hope to dodge unless you win the lottery". That's it.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Jupiters View Post
            I have a relection astral which give 10% chance to relect damage.
            Sometime it did show in the whole battle. But sometime it worked 2 hits in a row.
            It was so fun to see someone has stats over 25% of your stats do the ultimate attack and got the relect back and died.
            It's never worked for me in a clutch situation yet, but yea I do like the extra bit of suspense it adds.

            Originally posted by Darwi_18 View Post
            Ive got a level 6 illusion for a 12% dodge chance and have used it for a long time.
            Although i still use and find it useful I would have to say my gut feeling is it works
            Half as often as they say.

            Thats just a gut feel, no science involved. I may if I have the time double check but
            This issue with dodge (and reflect) has been around so long without I believe any
            Official word that im not sure research is going to help.

            A pity its a nice astral if working as advertised and a bit of excitement for those with
            Will destryoyer builds.
            Yea I think it may actually be closer to half. Having looked around at other forums, it seems like the astral can only activate on one hit of a multi-hit attack like rain of fire so that invalidates my results since there was a mix of single, double and triple hits in there.

            Apparently it is also half as likely to work in PvP compared to PvE, and most of my data was from PvE. If that's true it means the actual rate is lower than what I saw in my test.

            But yea is nice with my will destroyer build. Love it when it works, but it's just so rare it's easy to forget I even have it equipped lol.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by paulyan View Post
              I think 10% chance just means "don't hope to dodge unless you win the lottery". That's it.
              Well if I win the lottery I'll be able to afford 120 daily alchemies to upgrade my astral to level 10. :P

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Twiggled View Post
                Did an actual test with a level 5 enhanced illusion astral and recorded 649 attacks against me with 13 activations.

                That gives a 2.00% rate of activation with a 95% confidence interval of 0.92%-3.08%.

                Am I just misunderstanding what "10% chance of dodging damage" means?
                10% chance to dodge still means a 90% chance to hit normally. But yes, it is fun to see an ultimate attack do 1 damage every now and then.

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