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Grail Fragment Event System - Re-launch

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  • #16
    Hi Fragles_,

    I won`t address the topic of pay-to-win in this thread as I don`t see the direct relevance with free in-game events.
    And regarding %, as I said, in this reward system all items will have an equal % within the chests.
    As it`s currently planned to have a max of 20 different possible items within a chest, that`d be equal to a minimum of 5% drop chance within your desired quality of chest (and we`ve tried to balance the value of all items within each chest).

    Please keep providing feedback as there will probably be adjustments to be made.

    Regards,

    Ganstack

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    • #17
      Grail Rare Chest
      - Master Hammer (Lv7)
      - Master Hammer (Lv8)
      - Silver EXP Charm
      - 8x Portal of Order
      - 20 Gold Hero Medallions (possible to have heroes banners in this chest?)
      - 5x Arthur`s Hourglass (would rather have 25x 15mins speed up, useful for speeding up heroes)
      - 4x Merlin`s Hourglass
      - 3x Divine Hourglass
      - 3m Food/Wood/Stone/Ore
      - 2m Gold
      - 3x Arthur`s Conscripts
      - 60k Heavy Cavalry/Battering Rams or Catapults
      - 20k Siege Towers/Fire Ballistaes or War Wagons


      Grail Common Chest
      - Ironskin
      - Blood Fury
      - Iron Hammer (iron hammers are completely useless for anyone, even low level of players can get Master Hammer from Exploration/Campaign easily)
      - Train with Arthur(same as above, players can obtain lv235+ grail training easily from calender/campaign etc, train with Arthur is meaningless)
      - Portal of Order
      - Copper EXP Charm
      - Divine Inspiration
      - 3x Fertile Storm
      - 2x 12H Dove of Peace
      - 500.000 Gold/Ore/Stone/Wood or Food
      - 10.000 Greek Fire / Hellfire Throwers or Persian Sulfurs
      - 20.000 Swordsmen / Calvary or Ballistaes

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      • #18
        Thanks! i'm sure the changes will be appreciated by many players!

        Originally posted by Ganstack View Post

        @Bierkes, regarding the troops, I`d like to keep the discussion open but in another thread. I`ll make one today, thanks!
        Sure, excellent!


        1 more question regarding grail fragments:
        When we have collected a certain amount of grail fragments at the end of the event, and we decide that it's not enough to collect the chests that we where aiming for, would it be possible to just save up the grail fragments for the next grail fragment event? Of will every grail fragment event have unique fragments?

        Regards bierkes

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        • #19
          @Tiffyy

          Grail Rare Chest
          - (possible to have heroes banners in this chest?) => right now they`ll only be available in the Legendary chest. We`re working on their integration in game loops at which point they`ll be more flexibility on allocating them to different tiers of prizes.
          - (would rather have 25x 15mins speed up, useful for speeding up heroes) => done!

          Grail Common Chest
          - Iron Hammer (iron hammers are completely useless for anyone, even low level of players can get Master Hammer from Exploration/Campaign easily) => Master Hammers circumvent the entire Forging system in my opinion. Thus it makes sense for me to try and fix the system rather than just overlooking it. It`s quite a good system which provides deeper game-play than using Master Hammers.
          - Train with Arthur(same as above, players can obtain lv235+ grail training easily from calender/campaign etc, train with Arthur is meaningless) => Again I`d ask does it make sense from a game-play perspective to kill the Train with XXX items and just use Grails? In my opinion it doesn`t, so I`d rather work on trying to balance the leveling up of Knights then to cut straight to Grails LV235+

          Thanks for the suggestions, I`m really trying to work on improving the gaming experience and that sometimes requires going back to basics.

          @Bierkes

          Grail Fragments will remain a unique item and we are not planning any sort of wipe, in other words you`ll be able to save them up (including the ones you may already have).
          That said, there is a theoretical limitation to the number of possible Grail Fragments but I don`t believe we`ll encounter that issue.

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          • #20
            Ganstack, can you please add any more prizes to the tournaments, not only Grail fragments, some troops chest or whatever to make it more interesting. There's a lot of people that don't like this system and only fighting for fragments is pointless for them

            Thanks

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            • #21
              Hi Serx,

              would you like to share details on what exactly these people don`t like about the system?

              One of the objectives with this system has been to simplify the setup required for these events (and thus enable us to host more, varied events etc).
              Adding other items would counter this advantage.

              Thus I would need to specifically know what the issue with this system is to be able to figure the most appropriate solution.

              Thanks

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              • #22
                Hi guys.

                I agree with Serx....
                Let's look for example from low lv. Player who dont spend money and trying colect grail fragments for some chest. They put some troops in Tom event, kill some troops it tk event, attack boos itc.
                They finally got the chest after X hours of playing and they got in this chest master Hammer lv 7 or 8 for example or other small price that they can easily get from campaign or exploring.
                And this all play waste troops by attacking boss TK and troops from inventory was for nothing.
                That's why most regular players won't play this event becouse what's the point ?
                I think adding other prices besides grail fragments will be good idea and bring more intrest to this event.


                Thanks

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                • #23
                  100% totally with serx and fragle. I no compete grail events. Pointless and nothing good.now i play wheel then i got sun fury gears. Very. Good than grail events. Thx

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                  • #24
                    I've been asking for some more detailed feedback in Lancelot136 Ganstack?

                    There's a big big problem with prizes. Most in our server have been playing for 2,3 or 4 years , so the only good prize that we see is the Grail Legendary Chest.
                    All other prizes are useless, people have hundreds of everything and a long term fight for one random item in Legendary chest don't worth time and effort.

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                    • #25
                      Hi guys,

                      thanks for helping to provide feedback and fine tune this system.

                      @Fragles_ : you mention the example of a low level player obtaining a Master Hammer Lv 7 or 8 and being disappointed but shouldn`t these items be address to relatively low level players (in an ideal game balance of course)? Also, in that same quality chest they could be obtaining 60k troops, Silver EXP Charms and other items. Do you think these rewards really differ that much from the ones a low level player would usually get in comps?
                      An idea that comes to mind would be to add some older gear (Chaos, Sainted and such) in some of these lower quality chests, do you think that`d be more interesting for these players? What items would you suggest?
                      Also, let us not forget that the amount of Grail Fragments obtained by participating in events has greatly increased and thus the time needed to collect enough to get high quality chests should be drastically reduced.

                      @Serx: the calculations allow for a Mid level player participating in the events to gather enough Grail Fragments for the Legendary chest within a week and that`s without accounting for possible thefts from other players.
                      A high level player placing well in comps will do that even faster and each chest having equal drop chances, players know what to expect.

                      So can anyone offer suggestions within this system? New items (if so which ones), new tiers of chests (if so for how many Grail Fragments and with what items) or something else?

                      Thanks for helping guys!

                      BTW what server do you guys each play on?

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                      • #26
                        Hi Ganstack i just wanted to let you know that the link to see the calendar it doesn't work anymore. And in my opinion on the legendary chest there should be only the gears and the divine training level 10. no troops no hammers. players who can reach that kind of amount of grail fragments doesn't really need a master hammer level 11 or a few troops. what u think about it? the best prize should be the best for some reasons, isn't it? i read you are revamping the campaign. would you please let us know when this will happen? have a good work!

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                        • #27
                          Hi mdg81ve,

                          concerning the rewards in the legendary box, there are actually no troops inside of it. I had already made that modification thanks to some feedback received here.
                          Also, for the Master Hammer lv11, it`s a Total Master Hammer, not sure that makes a difference for you but I just wanted to clarify.

                          Now about the campaign, yes it`s being revamped right now.
                          I`ll share my intentions very shortly with all of you so that you can provide ideas/suggestions for improvements.
                          As for when it will happen, I can pin point an exact date, I`ll post details next week and gather feedback.

                          Thanks!

                          Ganstack

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Ganstack View Post
                            Hi mdg81ve,

                            concerning the rewards in the legendary box, there are actually no troops inside of it. I had already made that modification thanks to some feedback received here.
                            Also, for the Master Hammer lv11, it`s a Total Master Hammer, not sure that makes a difference for you but I just wanted to clarify.

                            Now about the campaign, yes it`s being revamped right now.
                            I`ll share my intentions very shortly with all of you so that you can provide ideas/suggestions for improvements.
                            As for when it will happen, I can pin point an exact date, I`ll post details next week and gather feedback.

                            Thanks!

                            Ganstack
                            Is there any chance we can get ou in the NA forums ?

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                            • #29
                              Hi _Gr8_,

                              I`m not sure I understand your message.
                              If it`s concerning the Campaign revamp and other updates coming up, yes they`ll be communicated on all community forums.

                              Ganstack


                              (spoiler => ...Wilds...T6...Next week...)

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                              • #30
                                Nice spoiler. ********* ? Also is sun gear gonna be making it to the NA servers and if yes do you know when by chance ?

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