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  • #31
    Originally posted by marco2250 View Post
    Why don't we do it together? Would u like it?
    Right now I'm not getting any time to work on it a all Just too much real life stuff getting in the way. If I do get the ball rolling I'll let you know. Would love a second pair of eyes to find all my mistakes lol

    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Very good formula! Thank you a lot!
    But I have some mistake on Tire 2! The Tire 1 is perfect calculation, but tire 2 something wrong. Maybe Stable is affecting the Tire 2?
    I don't think stable is but perhaps alloy horseshoes. I will test on one of my many accounts

    Originally posted by Zongol View Post
    Well this is not working for me. I have built 6 barracks, and it takes me about an hour to build 150 swords men, is that normal? shouldnt be much faster??
    You haven't provided enough information. I need to know the level of each barrack, the level of knight you are using on marshal, your geometry level and your blacksmith level. However if all your barracks were level 6, you have level 6 geometry and level 6 blacksmith and did not use a knight when starting training then 150 sword would take exactly 1 hour to build.

    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    There is supposed to be an upgrade in cavalry training time depending on your level of alloy horseshoes. Is this accurate?
    I'll have to test. There certainly seems to be some discrepancy somewhere for tier2 or tier3 troops. Its a slow process though because I constantly have to deconstruct and construct buildings. Unfortunately research cannot be undone so I have to create new accounts from time to time to run new scenarios.

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    • #32
      I think the answer he was looking for is different than evony-style troop training, which he (possibly) and I are most familiar with. If you need a level 3 barrack to build a troop in evony, no barracks under level 3 will work or contribute, therefore having no effect on the time. In this game however, I think you can have 1 level 10 barrack and a bunch of level 1 barrack and build catapults, split between them all. Something that doesn't make sense, however, is that If I have 3 barracks and I train 1 troop and it takes 6s to train, it takes 18s to train 3 troops. What it SHOULD do is take the same time for 3, then 12s for 4-6 troops, 18s for 7-9, etc. So bottom line, you just need 1 barrack of the required level to build troops and split the time to them all.
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      • #33
        Originally posted by COWTiPP3R View Post
        I think the answer he was looking for is different than evony-style troop training, which he (possibly) and I are most familiar with. If you need a level 3 barrack to build a troop in evony, no barracks under level 3 will work or contribute, therefore having no effect on the time. In this game however, I think you can have 1 level 10 barrack and a bunch of level 1 barrack and build catapults, split between them all. Something that doesn't make sense, however, is that If I have 3 barracks and I train 1 troop and it takes 6s to train, it takes 18s to train 3 troops. What it SHOULD do is take the same time for 3, then 12s for 4-6 troops, 18s for 7-9, etc. So bottom line, you just need 1 barrack of the required level to build troops and split the time to them all.
        I don't see a problem with the training model used. I have seen it used in many games. I have also seen the Evony training model used in many games. Neither is right or wrong they are just different.

        You are correct in that you only need 1 barrack of the correct level to train the troops you want. The rest can be all level 1. That is how my 2nd city is currently set up. I will upgrade the other barracks after everything else is done.

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        • #34
          Stables

          it mentions when upgrading stables that it increases cavalry production does it increase the stables i have or should i just keep upgrading one???
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Zongol View Post
            Well this is not working for me. I have built 6 barracks, and it takes me about an hour to build 150 swords men, is that normal? shouldnt be much faster??
            build MORE barracks. at least 11.

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            • #36
              Runey, that's quite something to work out that formula. Are you a mathematician or something?



              Originally posted by runey71 View Post
              The formula is something like this:

              Training Time in Seconds = (Troop Qty * Base Time) / (( 1 + ((Geometry + Blacksmith)/10 + (Knight / 200)) * (Barracks Qty + ((Barracks Sum - Barracks Qty) / 10)))

              Where:
              - Troop Qty = The amount of troops you want to train
              - Base Time = 30 for supply troops, 90 for tier 1 and carts, 480 for tier 2 and wagons, 1200 for tier 3
              - Geometry = You geometry research level
              - Blacksmith = You blacksmith building level (Yes I know the game does not say blacksmith effects training time but it does)
              - Knight = The level of the knight assigned to the marshal position when training is started
              - Barracks Qty = The number of barracks you have
              - Barracks Sum = The sum of all the barracks levels (So if you have 9 level 9 barracks the sum is 81)

              The final result must be rounded up. So far all testing has shown the formula to be accurate but I am still testing.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by runey71 View Post
                Sorry seems that my stubby fingers made a mistake when I typed it into the forums. Just compared it to the formula in Excel and the brackets are different. Try this instead.

                Training Time in Seconds = (Troop Qty * Base Time) / (( 1 + (Geometry + Blacksmith)/10 + (Knight / 200)) * (Barracks Qty + ((Barracks Sum - Barracks Qty) / 10)))

                Basically I mistyped and had an extra bracket. Excel tries to correct and you get the error factor you mentioned. I've checked this one three ties now. Hopefully it is right this time
                yes but does this pertain to the iphone game or another platform? i use iphone and im hoping youre sure this same principal/formula applies to the iphone and that it has been tested.
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                • #38
                  Does this stuff apply to the iphone game or another type?

                  Does this barrack info pertain to the iphone game or another platform? i use iphone and im hoping youre sure this same principal/formula applies to the iphone and that it has been tested. Otherwise im wasting time even reading this forum. thank you!!
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                  • #39
                    Quick question

                    Does this apply to all troop types? I thought stables increased speed for mounted troops etc?

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by OutlawScumfuck View Post
                      Does this barrack info pertain to the iphone game or another platform? i use iphone and im hoping youre sure this same principal/formula applies to the iphone and that it has been tested. Otherwise im wasting time even reading this forum. thank you!!
                      Yes this is the formula for the mobile version of KoC.

                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Does this apply to all troop types? I thought stables increased speed for mounted troops etc?
                      Stables seems to have no impact on light cavalary. I have not yet confirmed whether this is the case for cavalry or heavy cavalry.

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                      • #41
                        I heard lvl1 plain can speedup the troops training time. Is it right?

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by runey71 View Post
                          The formula is something like this:

                          Training Time in Seconds = (Troop Qty * Base Time) / (( 1 + ((Geometry + Blacksmith)/10 + (Knight / 200)) * (Barracks Qty + ((Barracks Sum - Barracks Qty) / 10)))

                          Where:
                          - Troop Qty = The amount of troops you want to train
                          - Base Time = 30 for supply troops, 90 for tier 1 and carts, 480 for tier 2 and wagons, 1200 for tier 3
                          - Geometry = You geometry research level
                          - Blacksmith = You blacksmith building level (Yes I know the game does not say blacksmith effects training time but it does)
                          - Knight = The level of the knight assigned to the marshal position when training is started
                          - Barracks Qty = The number of barracks you have
                          - Barracks Sum = The sum of all the barracks levels (So if you have 9 level 9 barracks the sum is 81)

                          The final result must be rounded up. So far all testing has shown the formula to be accurate but I am still testing.
                          Thanks Runey! This is good stuff...

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            I heard lvl1 plain can speedup the troops training time. Is it right?
                            Um no that is not true.

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                            • #44
                              Hi Runey,

                              The training time for Heavy Cavs is significantly less than Battering Rams for me.

                              I train both of them from the same city, using the same knight. The city configuration is 16 barracks (lvl 7-9), 1 stable (lvl 9), 1 blacksmith (lvl 9), and no workshop (deconstructed to build an additional barrack). The knight is lvl 188.

                              Training 810 Heavy Cavs take 2h44m. Training 810 Battering Rams take 3h36m.

                              I never noticed any training time difference between Swordsmen and Cavalry so either the Ground Troops training has significantly slowed every since I deconstructed my Workshop, or the Heavy Cavalry training time is influenced by Stable and/or Alloy Horseshoes levels, while the Cavalry isn't.
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Abir View Post
                                Hi Runey,

                                The training time for Heavy Cavs is significantly less than Battering Rams for me.

                                I train both of them from the same city, using the same knight. The city configuration is 16 barracks (lvl 7-9), 1 stable (lvl 9), 1 blacksmith (lvl 9), and no workshop (deconstructed to build an additional barrack). The knight is lvl 188.

                                Training 810 Heavy Cavs take 2h44m. Training 810 Battering Rams take 3h36m.

                                I never noticed any training time difference between Swordsmen and Cavalry so either the Ground Troops training has significantly slowed every since I deconstructed my Workshop, or the Heavy Cavalry training time is influenced by Stable and/or Alloy Horseshoes levels, while the Cavalry isn't.
                                Thanks heaps for that Abir. I never got around to confirming it but looks like you did I suspect it is the buildings and not the research effecting the training time. Odd that the Workshop would effect training time for Tier 3 Ground troops though as it is a requirement for Tier 3 Artillery. Guess its time for e to deconstruct some buildings and confirm it LOL

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