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  • Barracks and Training Times

    I'm new (4 days in) and am confused about the training time for units vis a vis number and level of barracks. Let's look at an example with Swordmen.

    If I have one level 5 barracks, I can train them at a certain rate, if I add other level 5 barracks does the training time go down? I assumed that it did, but then I tried that very thing and the training time didn't decrease with the addition of a second level 5 barracks. What gives? Am I confused? Is my game glitching? OR does the number and level of barracks only affect the number of additional training assignments that can be put into the queue and not impact troop training time?

    Thanks,

  • #2
    Bump... Noticed the same thing

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      I'm new (4 days in) and am confused about the training time for units vis a vis number and level of barracks. Let's look at an example with Swordmen.

      If I have one level 5 barracks, I can train them at a certain rate, if I add other level 5 barracks does the training time go down? I assumed that it did, but then I tried that very thing and the training time didn't decrease with the addition of a second level 5 barracks. What gives? Am I confused? Is my game glitching? OR does the number and level of barracks only affect the number of additional training assignments that can be put into the queue and not impact troop training time?

      Thanks,
      Every additional barrack should have a significant impact on your training times. Each extra level should have a small impact on your training time. If it isn't then please raise a ticket with support.

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      • #4
        ok

        the number of barracks u have = the number you can quee to train.

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        • #5
          The formula is something like this:

          Training Time in Seconds = (Troop Qty * Base Time) / (( 1 + ((Geometry + Blacksmith)/10 + (Knight / 200)) * (Barracks Qty + ((Barracks Sum - Barracks Qty) / 10)))

          Where:
          - Troop Qty = The amount of troops you want to train
          - Base Time = 30 for supply troops, 90 for tier 1 and carts, 480 for tier 2 and wagons, 1200 for tier 3
          - Geometry = You geometry research level
          - Blacksmith = You blacksmith building level (Yes I know the game does not say blacksmith effects training time but it does)
          - Knight = The level of the knight assigned to the marshal position when training is started
          - Barracks Qty = The number of barracks you have
          - Barracks Sum = The sum of all the barracks levels (So if you have 9 level 9 barracks the sum is 81)

          The final result must be rounded up. So far all testing has shown the formula to be accurate but I am still testing.

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          • #6
            Formula incorrect?

            Hey Runey,
            First of all I really appreciate your efforts. it just somehow Sees that the Formula does Not Match with my experience on iPad.
            What Would your estimated Time of production be with:
            GEO, armory at 6
            Knight at 64
            4 production sites with tot Lvl of 16?

            Reality Shows 35 sechs.

            Cheers and Jeep ist up

            Brassalui

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Brassalui View Post
              Hey Runey,
              First of all I really appreciate your efforts. it just somehow Sees that the Formula does Not Match with my experience on iPad.
              What Would your estimated Time of production be with:
              GEO, armory at 6
              Knight at 64
              4 production sites with tot Lvl of 16?

              Reality Shows 35 sechs.

              Cheers and Jeep ist up

              Brassalui
              You don't mention a quantity or type of troop.

              With knight = 64, geometry = 6, blacksmith = 6, barracks = 4 and levels = 16 (e.g. 4 barracks at level 4 or similar combination) I get the following.

              100 Supply Troops = 229 seconds
              100 Tier 1 = 687 seconds
              100 Tier 2 = 3664 seconds
              100 Tier 3 = 9158 seconds

              I have tested it against 100 different accounts all with slightly different setups. So far it has been accurate down to the second.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by runey71 View Post
                You don't mention a quantity or type of troop.

                With knight = 64, geometry = 6, blacksmith = 6, barracks = 4 and levels = 16 (e.g. 4 barracks at level 4 or similar combination) I get the following.

                100 Supply Troops = 229 seconds
                100 Tier 1 = 687 seconds
                100 Tier 2 = 3664 seconds
                100 Tier 3 = 9158 seconds

                I have tested it against 100 different accounts all with slightly different setups. So far it has been accurate down to the second.
                Are you sure that the formula you posted at the top is accurate? I get 337, 1011, 5391, and 13477 (all off by a factor of 1.47 from your values). I tried re-entering the formula twice and get the same results. I'll keep trying.

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                • #9
                  Sorry seems that my stubby fingers made a mistake when I typed it into the forums. Just compared it to the formula in Excel and the brackets are different. Try this instead.

                  Training Time in Seconds = (Troop Qty * Base Time) / (( 1 + (Geometry + Blacksmith)/10 + (Knight / 200)) * (Barracks Qty + ((Barracks Sum - Barracks Qty) / 10)))

                  Basically I mistyped and had an extra bracket. Excel tries to correct and you get the error factor you mentioned. I've checked this one three ties now. Hopefully it is right this time

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by runey71 View Post
                    Sorry seems that my stubby fingers made a mistake when I typed it into the forums. Just compared it to the formula in Excel and the brackets are different. Try this instead.

                    Training Time in Seconds = (Troop Qty * Base Time) / (( 1 + (Geometry + Blacksmith)/10 + (Knight / 200)) * (Barracks Qty + ((Barracks Sum - Barracks Qty) / 10)))

                    Basically I mistyped and had an extra bracket. Excel tries to correct and you get the error factor you mentioned. I've checked this one three ties now. Hopefully it is right this time
                    Fixed! Thanks for the response.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by runey71 View Post
                      Sorry seems that my stubby fingers made a mistake when I typed it into the forums. Just compared it to the formula in Excel and the brackets are different. Try this instead.

                      Training Time in Seconds = (Troop Qty * Base Time) / (( 1 + (Geometry + Blacksmith)/10 + (Knight / 200)) * (Barracks Qty + ((Barracks Sum - Barracks Qty) / 10)))

                      Basically I mistyped and had an extra bracket. Excel tries to correct and you get the error factor you mentioned. I've checked this one three ties now. Hopefully it is right this time


                      Are you sure you've got the sign right between knight and barracks? Under your formula, if you have no knight the number of barracks is irrelevant 0/200*anything = 0

                      Sure it's not a plus there?

                      Edit never mind, misread brackets.

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                      • #12
                        What a ridiculous formla. Upgrading a barracks from 1 to 2 gets the same speed increase as upgrading from level 9 to 10. At least geo 10 will give me a decent bump.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          What a ridiculous formla. Upgrading a barracks from 1 to 2 gets the same speed increase as upgrading from level 9 to 10. At least geo 10 will give me a decent bump.
                          I agree it would be nice to have an exponential increase for each level of barrack rather than the current flat one.

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                          • #14
                            Workshop makes a difference too

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Fixed! Thanks for the response.
                              from experience i know quantity of barracks has strongest effect of all, especially if u increase from 1 to 2, or 2 to 3. it diminishes, but is still a strong effect after 3rd barracks.

                              basic build time went from 30 to 21 to 16 to 13 seconds with each barracks.
                              and it matters which barracks u recruit at. always recruit at highest lvl barracks.

                              does upgrading another barracks improve speed of main barracks?

                              alliance: ipad

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