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  • Pict camps are useless now

    The picture at the start of the V4 release notes (plus the description prior to the "upgrade") clearly states/stated that the Pict Camps would have "bigger payouts" and a "better mix". Since the upgrades however Pict Camps are giving nothing like they were.

    Previously from a level 3 Pict Camp you would get:
    300k Food
    30k Wood
    3k Stone
    3k Gold
    300 Ore

    That's a total of: 336.3k resources

    Now from a level 3 Pict Camp I get:
    19.5k Food
    13k each of Wood, Stone and Ore
    6.5k Gold

    That's a total of: 65k resources

    Pict camps are not even giving 20% of as many resources total as they used to!

    Attacking a level 3 Pict Camp previously would cost me about 120 cavalry (losing troops worth 158.4k resources) so making a "profit" worth the attack of 177.9k resources. Worth the time (real life time) to be bothered to find Picts and attack them.
    Attacking a level 3 Pict Camp just now cost me 132 milita (losing troops worth 66k resources) in order to gain 65k resources. A net LOSS of 1k resources. Not only not worth any time to play the game but in fact making it detrimental to do so.

    This is utterly absurd. I don't care about the balance of resources, was possible to plan and make tactics knowing you had more food. But at least give something, now there's no reward for attacking at all. Might as well not bother. It should never cost more in resources to do something than the reward you're given that's just a basic schoolboy error.

  • #2
    Originally posted by RandBlade View Post
    The picture at the start of the V4 release notes (plus the description prior to the "upgrade") clearly states/stated that the Pict Camps would have "bigger payouts" and a "better mix". Since the upgrades however Pict Camps are giving nothing like they were.

    Previously from a level 3 Pict Camp you would get:
    300k Food
    30k Wood
    3k Stone
    3k Gold
    300 Ore

    That's a total of: 336.3k resources

    Now from a level 3 Pict Camp I get:
    19.5k Food
    13k each of Wood, Stone and Ore
    6.5k Gold

    That's a total of: 65k resources

    Pict camps are not even giving 20% of as many resources total as they used to!

    Attacking a level 3 Pict Camp previously would cost me about 120 cavalry (losing troops worth 158.4k resources) so making a "profit" worth the attack of 177.9k resources. Worth the time (real life time) to be bothered to find Picts and attack them.
    Attacking a level 3 Pict Camp just now cost me 132 milita (losing troops worth 66k resources) in order to gain 65k resources. A net LOSS of 1k resources. Not only not worth any time to play the game but in fact making it detrimental to do so.

    This is utterly absurd. I don't care about the balance of resources, was possible to plan and make tactics knowing you had more food. But at least give something, now there's no reward for attacking at all. Might as well not bother. It should never cost more in resources to do something than the reward you're given that's just a basic schoolboy error.
    Hi and thanks for your message,

    we are experiencing a bug with the Pictish Camps load out, they will hold a better mix of resources and gold than before and be less punitive when you attack them

    Thanks for your patience

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    • #3
      Gold is pointless. Previously even when scouting cost loads the 1k gold was more than enough. Gold is only usable for research now so why do we need more of it? It's the other resources that are needed to train and retrain troops.

      An increase of 3k wood but decrease of 220.5k food is not a better balance in my eyes. A better mix would be 80k of each non-gold resource or 65k of each including gold. That'd still give out as much as it used to. Why log into the game and attack Picts if they give less than 20% total as they used to. It's not worth either the resources of troops or my real life time.

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      • #4
        So glad those load figures in the camps are a bug and are going to change My alliance will be happy too lol

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        • #5
          Any idea when it will be solved? I am new to BFTN but not to kabam.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Any idea when it will be solved? I am new to BFTN but not to kabam.
            Engineers are working on it as we speak! It will be fixed as soon as possible
            Thank you for your patience

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Riccardo Kabam View Post
              Engineers are working on it as we speak! It will be fixed as soon as possible
              Thank you for your patience
              Will it just be a different number of troops or will the total amount of resources go back up like it used to be? Even if there was NO defence, with the camps giving 80% less resources than before its not worth it.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Will it just be a different number of troops or will the total amount of resources go back up like it used to be? Even if there was NO defence, with the camps giving 80% less resources than before its not worth it.
                The Pictish Camp have a lower troops count to make them less punitive when you attack them, at the same time Pictish Camps will hold a lower level of resources then before but with a better mix

                The Bug that I was referring to is that some Picts Camps had the old Troops's Count but with lower resources

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Riccardo Kabam View Post
                  The Pictish Camp have a lower troops count to make them less punitive when you attack them, at the same time Pictish Camps will hold a lower level of resources then before but with a better mix

                  The Bug that I was referring to is that some Picts Camps had the old Troops's Count but with lower resources
                  If that is the case then I'm afraid the original poster is correct. Pict camps are now pointless hitting. It costs more in resources to recover the losses than what you get from the pict camp. Oh well guess I shall continue farming players then

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                  • #10
                    Not Useless

                    Originally posted by Noob_57VWSXF
                    The amount of resources gained from this Picts does not even cover the troops lost. The previous concept is better.
                    I don't think they are useless. I attacked a lvl 1 pict camp (contains 100 archers) with 300 Light Cavalry, lost 43 cavalary (21.k resources) and gained 26k resources. Overall gain of 4.5 k plus the hero gets leveled. So looks quite fair to me.

                    Cheers

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                    • #11
                      Unfortunately I have to agree with op, the ratio of resources gained vs lost are not really worth it. You may gain a bit more then lost but then to figure in the time to re-train troops as well. Also with resources being so hard to come by with having no market or gifting it would be great if you could up the resource drop or lower the troop amount. Personally I have spent my last $$ on this game buying gems to buy resources and will walk away if it becomes too frustrating due to resources. I am a long time player of KoC and while I do enjoy the game I am tired of paying $$ for (fake) food ;/
                      Thanks

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        I don't think they are useless. I attacked a lvl 1 pict camp (contains 100 archers) with 300 Light Cavalry, lost 43 cavalary (21.k resources) and gained 26k resources. Overall gain of 4.5 k plus the hero gets leveled. So looks quite fair to me.

                        Cheers
                        Obviously opinions will differ but I don't see a 4.5k resource gain as worth it. As for leveling knights you don't need to lose those troops. Hit the wild once and then keep hitting it over and over before troops respawn. You get experience for your knights and little to no troops loss.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by runey71 View Post
                          Obviously opinions will differ but I don't see a 4.5k resource gain as worth it. As for leveling knights you don't need to lose those troops. Hit the wild once and then keep hitting it over and over before troops respawn. You get experience for your knights and little to no troops loss.
                          Hey have to agree with you 4.5 k resource gain is a waste of time in simple words. You have to spend time to train troops again. Love your idea about leveling knights! And yes why no marketplace???
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Noob_5888XV7 View Post
                            And yes why no marketplace???
                            Not sure why they have decided not to implement a marketplace. Never say never. The more people want it the more likely it will appear in a later release.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by runey71 View Post
                              Not sure why they have decided not to implement a marketplace. Never say never. The more people want it the more likely it will appear in a later release.
                              Market Place is not in the plans for now, but as runey says, never say never!

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