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Attack/Defend Debuff explained

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  • Attack/Defend Debuff explained

    Guys/gals, can someone PLEASE confirm if debuff has a 1:1 ratio for attacking and/or defending? I.e. If for example my life is 100 and my defending debuff is 50, is my total defense rating 150? Or is it higher due to a debuff multiplier? I'm tired of reading and googling and coming up empty. I am also perturbed by the fact Kabam does not provide any insight, but instead makes you learn the hard way. I've been playing for four years and still don't effing know. Please someone confirm one way or the other! Kind regards Rath!

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    Debuff is higher, debuff is 1.2. -1.3. Compared to 1 life/attack. Pretty much a quarter more

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    • #3
      Debuff

      I heard the same thing last year, that it was 1.3 or so better, but I have recently been told that it is 1:1 ratio since life and attack stats have increased. I just wish kabam would go to their programmers and ask so that we would know for sure.

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      • #4
        Me and boro done this test a while ago rath and we came to the conclusin its not a 1-1 ratio was some where between 1.35 and 1.45 value but im a high school out so numbers like that way past my level of maths lol

        i wouldnt bother asking kabam they neither know or care for that matter
        Player feed back i have personally found is much more helpfull then any of the pen pushers at the kabam support centre

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        • #5
          Rathgar, I suggest using the website linked below. The combat rating shows you exactly the power of the gear on your knight, so you don't have to worry about how to combine the numbers on your knight's details sheet.

          To your question: " If for example my life is 100 and my defending debuff is 50, is my total defense rating 150? " ... the answer is No.

          Kabam won't tell you how it works, because revealing the mechanics is a core part of the game. If you remember hitting with a mix of t1 and t2 and wondering about how the outcome of the battle was computed... it was the same thing: hidden mechanics to give active and curious players a little edge.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by tempicek View Post
            Rathgar, I suggest using the website linked below. The combat rating shows you exactly the power of the gear on your knight, so you don't have to worry about how to combine the numbers on your knight's details sheet.

            To your question: " If for example my life is 100 and my defending debuff is 50, is my total defense rating 150? " ... the answer is No.

            Kabam won't tell you how it works, because revealing the mechanics is a core part of the game. If you remember hitting with a mix of t1 and t2 and wondering about how the outcome of the battle was computed... it was the same thing: hidden mechanics to give active and curious players a little edge.
            That didnt help at all
            And personally i find your website to be anooying to use

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            • #7
              Originally posted by septa_one View Post
              That didnt help at all
              And personally i find your website to be anooying to use
              I was giving an advice to the original poster. I'm sorry you didn't find my answer to your liking, but it wasn't aimed at you.

              Now, to your point: I'm sure there's tone that could be done to improve the user interface and experience there, especially if accessed from a smart phone. If you have any particular suggestions how to improve that, you can shoot them here: http://community.kabam.com/forums/sh...site&p=2793705

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              • #8
                I BELIEVE that website is flawed

                Originally posted by tempicek View Post
                Rathgar, I suggest using the website linked below. The combat rating shows you exactly the power of the gear on your knight, so you don't have to worry about how to combine the numbers on your knight's details sheet.

                To your question: " If for example my life is 100 and my defending debuff is 50, is my total defense rating 150? " ... the answer is No.

                Kabam won't tell you how it works, because revealing the mechanics is a core part of the game. If you remember hitting with a mix of t1 and t2 and wondering about how the outcome of the battle was computed... it was the same thing: hidden mechanics to give active and curious players a little edge.
                Where do you get the best setups do you test everything cant always just go by the best pieces my friend .
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                • #9
                  Thanks guys!

                  I apreciate the feedback. It sounds like we are all pretty much in agreement the debuff has a higher impact on gear. My concern was that the debuff went down to a 1:1 ratio. Has anyone done any recent work to see if the debuff is still 1.3:1 ratio (give or take)? Septa, how long ago did you perform your test? Thanks again guys!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Rathgar1 View Post
                    I apreciate the feedback. It sounds like we are all pretty much in agreement the debuff has a higher impact on gear. My concern was that the debuff went down to a 1:1 ratio. Has anyone done any recent work to see if the debuff is still 1.3:1 ratio (give or take)? Septa, how long ago did you perform your test? Thanks again guys!
                    No multiplier there. The buff is just as important as the debuff is, so you need to stack up both. Yet the computation is tricky, hence me suggesting using the tool to tell you.

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                    • #11
                      Blasphemy

                      Tempicek's website is absolutely correct. I challenge you to use the best setup/"my gear" feature and find a single instance where the site does not match in-game results. It won't happen.

                      For information on the best gear into use or try to acquire, use his site (camelottools.appspot.com). It's really the best source of information about gear available right now.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by big bri View Post
                        Where do you get the best setups do you test everything cant always just go by the best pieces my friend .
                        The best setup isn't a combination of "best pieces", rather, the best pieces are those that form the best setup. I simply know the formulas used, so I don't need to test it to be able to tell (although various previous best setups were tested and verified by people who don't need to count their hammers)

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                        • #13
                          Ran test few weeks ago again and yes debuff is still 1.3/1 ratio it was controled no heros

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by concerned player1 View Post
                            Ran test few weeks ago again and yes debuff is still 1.3/1 ratio it was controled no heros
                            screenshots or it didn't happen.

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                            • #15
                              Debuff rating

                              The answer actually comes out to 1.45 for debuff. This is why attack with debuff is stronger than a a pure attack knight. Pure being an attack night with little to no debuff.

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