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  • Knight Level on Defence (Average or Marshall Only?)

    Hi All,

    I play on 48th and had a question regarding the Knight Level taken into battle when on defence and being reinforced. Heard different things from different poeple (all convinced they were right so would appreciate any data if available). Is the Knight Level taken into battle for the defending team:

    a) Average Knight Level of all Knights participating in Battle

    b) Simply the level of Knight, Marshalling the Wall
    - which also begs the question, what happens if no knight marshalling wall
    - also what happens if knight martialling wall, but city troops not visable (convincing enemy you have less troops then you act. do on supply cart, risky)

    c) The highest Knight Level of all knights participating in battle

    d) something else which takes into account a number of factors, formulas or logic statements.

    Planning to test when time allows, but figured I'd ask 'the usual suspects' here first.
    Thanks in advance.

  • #2
    Relating to point b) the question "Do reinforced troops show up on a scout report" also needs to be asked.We know they are revealed on cart attack but purely talking about scout here. Thanks in advance and will post any findings/data from tests here.

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    • #3
      I've come really close to getting accurate formulas for battle mechanics but have never reached a 100% certainty; so, as far as numbers I'm sorry but nobody on here can prove anything 100% yet. If they tell you so they are liars.

      However, with that being said; from the tests I've seen myself and the posts on the "sticky" Battle Mechanics page, it can be said with 100% certainty the following runs true:

      1. The knight assigned to marshal for the defending city gives an attack and health bonus to defending troops BUT troop must be turned to "unhidden"
      -Reinforcing knights do nothing and count as 0, if you do not assign a knight to marshal it counts as 0, if you forget to unhide your troop your knight bonus counts as 0

      This means also that if you are reinforced and forget to unhide your own troops and set a marshall, the reinforced troops will be slaughtered because they will receive no knight bonus.

      Just another tidbit:
      There is definitely
      2. A troop bonus (the more troop that you out ratio your opponent, the less losses you take) and
      3. Also there is a slight win bonus (the winner of the battle loses less troops).
      4. Then the obvious matchup between certain troops comes into effect; however, I haven't seen anyone try to work that out yet. ex.(Cavs-Strong vs. Cats)
      Carpe Omnia Watches

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      • #4
        Thanks for your reply. Was a while back since I posted this and can also confirm (in line with Runeys sticky on Battle Mechanics & Kyles comments above) that it is the knight assigned to marshall for the defending city that counts on defence with troops turned to unhidden.

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        • #5
          Reinforcing troops do not show up on scout reports. I have a second account and scouted myself and the 8 reinforceing armies didn't show up.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by LordMalcome View Post
            Reinforcing troops do not show up on scout reports. I have a second account and scouted myself and the 8 reinforceing armies didn't show up.

            They do show up, your research probably wasn't high enough, you need lv 8 eagle eyes research to see reinforcing armies.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by King_Kyle_the_I View Post
              I've come really close to getting accurate formulas for battle mechanics but have never reached a 100% certainty; so, as far as numbers I'm sorry but nobody on here can prove anything 100% yet. If they tell you so they are liars.

              However, with that being said; from the tests I've seen myself and the posts on the "sticky" Battle Mechanics page, it can be said with 100% certainty the following runs true:

              1. The knight assigned to marshal for the defending city gives an attack and health bonus to defending troops BUT troop must be turned to "unhidden"
              -Reinforcing knights do nothing and count as 0, if you do not assign a knight to marshal it counts as 0, if you forget to unhide your troop your knight bonus counts as 0

              This means also that if you are reinforced and forget to unhide your own troops and set a marshall, the reinforced troops will be slaughtered because they will receive no knight bonus.

              Just another tidbit:
              There is definitely
              2. A troop bonus (the more troop that you out ratio your opponent, the less losses you take) and
              3. Also there is a slight win bonus (the winner of the battle loses less troops).
              4. Then the obvious matchup between certain troops comes into effect; however, I haven't seen anyone try to work that out yet. ex.(Cavs-Strong vs. Cats)
              Wat if the city i defend has a knight 80 on marchal. And I reinforce with knight 114. Does that matter with the change to win. Or take my troops the level of the knight on marchal?

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