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  • Hero reinforce

    Needs to come to an end, too many stack heros on def some having 7 to 8 defending yes its their own heros but its bogus since most u can send is 3 to attack. U can have attack knight 2000 with 150 owain and 2 other heros hit with 100k t3 they have 1500 def knight with 7 heros and u kill maybe 100k t1 its bogus and getting old. Every city has 3 heros in keep thats all that should be allowed.

    After 3 yrs of playing it might be time say farewell as the defense has huge advantage and no one attack anymore.

    Kabam u neef address this asap and not allow more then 3 heros in any city.

  • #2
    In the interest of "equal time", I opened up earlier today with a 1700 defense knight and Owain, Gareth, and Palamedes, all of my own, and all at level 100. I had a 20% skin running. I gave up about 120 million might and only killed 55 million.

    Why?

    My heroes had to rest, while I could continue to be hit by people who were sending their heroes with their attacks. In fact, the person who attacked me the most sent a non-hero attack wave first to force my heroes to rest so that his next attack had things more tilted to his favor, despite him already having better gear.

    So, if folks want to continue to cry about heroes, then any change MUST REQUIRE THAT ASSIGNED HEROES DO NOT REST.

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    • #3
      I think you need to go to your alliance ask for help with your Heros / or read through all their skills and bonus boosts to find the right match ups for what you want to achieve.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by CHOSEN_YETI View Post
        I think you need to go to your alliance ask for help with your Heros / or read through all their skills and bonus boosts to find the right match ups for what you want to achieve.
        somewhere between those lines he has a valid point tho.

        Even with the best hero setups:
        *The fact remains that the 3 defence heroes in your city will be put to rest for 10 minutes after 1 attack.
        *another issue is, that a defender can indeed be reinforced with many heroes. if he has a good knight, nobody can kill even a single troop then when they attack him. on the other hand, most likely this can't be the case for 24/7 since alliance members need their own heroes aswell for campaign, explore, attack/defend, so they can't be reinforcing all the time.
        *@ConcernedPlayer: you complain about a player having 7 of his own heroes in his city, but you forget about the fact that not only you, but multiple people can attack him, which means players can share and split the losses in might while that 1 defender is doing it with his own troops. and like Chosen_yeti mentioned, i also believe you have the wrong hero setups if you get that amount of kills with those percentages of the knights..

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        • #5
          Originally posted by some1from80 View Post
          In the interest of "equal time", I opened up earlier today with a 1700 defense knight and Owain, Gareth, and Palamedes, all of my own, and all at level 100. I had a 20% skin running. I gave up about 120 million might and only killed 55 million.

          Why?

          My heroes had to rest, while I could continue to be hit by people who were sending their heroes with their attacks. In fact, the person who attacked me the most sent a non-hero attack wave first to force my heroes to rest so that his next attack had things more tilted to his favor, despite him already having better gear.

          So, if folks want to continue to cry about heroes, then any change MUST REQUIRE THAT ASSIGNED HEROES DO NOT REST.



          U must be doing something wrong or have wrong heros assigned to lose that much. Everyone knows its dieing and until hero stacking ends it will continue to die

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          • #6
            Originally posted by CHOSEN_YETI View Post
            I think you need to go to your alliance ask for help with your Heros / or read through all their skills and bonus boosts to find the right match ups for what you want to achieve.
            I am 3-4 months behind because I did not go in the allegedly "voluntary" merge. I had actually hoped they would relent and let us stay because there was a huge problem with events on world 80 being sabotaged by someone who had at least 50 alts. That person moved to 132, and without the hindsight of knowing Kabam would stop enabling ToM-TK-ToM daisy-chaining, I and others felt it best to stay behind. Because of how things played out, with our events being stopped on Dec 1, so no Winter event or Season 4, and I could not participate in Purgatory, I don't have any elevated heroes, and I just did campaign 4 while others were wasting time with Inferno, so Tristan is on my agenda.

            So, polite noob inference notwithstanding (not your fault, did not know the circumstance, but it is what it is), there are likely others in my same predicament.. They may have gotten there in different ways, like perhaps not being lucky with random stat gear, or not being able to get hammers (a problem I face too), but I am fairly certain that there are many players just starting to get to where they feel like they can open and not be giving away 4 times as much TK as they get.

            I think you all forget that not everyone is packing as much heat, offense or defense, as you are, and as such, viewed from my perspective, you all come across as having an apparent air of entitlement to easy winnings. Someone mentioned a 400% boost with a hero. Give me a break. That seems like what morganna mentioned about over-correcting.

            If I saw what looked like more rational requests rather than "I am the attacker so I should win", then I would be far more willing to engage in a discussion, but the message coming across right now seems to be one of where attackers feel entitled to easy wins.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by some1from80 View Post
              I am 3-4 months behind because I did not go in the allegedly "voluntary" merge. I had actually hoped they would relent and let us stay because there was a huge problem with events on world 80 being sabotaged by someone who had at least 50 alts. That person moved to 132, and without the hindsight of knowing Kabam would stop enabling ToM-TK-ToM daisy-chaining, I and others felt it best to stay behind. Because of how things played out, with our events being stopped on Dec 1, so no Winter event or Season 4, and I could not participate in Purgatory, I don't have any elevated heroes, and I just did campaign 4 while others were wasting time with Inferno, so Tristan is on my agenda.

              So, polite noob inference notwithstanding (not your fault, did not know the circumstance, but it is what it is), there are likely others in my same predicament.. They may have gotten there in different ways, like perhaps not being lucky with random stat gear, or not being able to get hammers (a problem I face too), but I am fairly certain that there are many players just starting to get to where they feel like they can open and not be giving away 4 times as much TK as they get.

              I think you all forget that not everyone is packing as much heat, offense or defense, as you are, and as such, viewed from my perspective, you all come across as having an apparent air of entitlement to easy winnings. Someone mentioned a 400% boost with a hero. Give me a break. That seems like what morganna mentioned about over-correcting.

              If I saw what looked like more rational requests rather than "I am the attacker so I should win", then I would be far more willing to engage in a discussion, but the message coming across right now seems to be one of where attackers feel entitled to easy wins.
              If i remember correctly, kabam has notified everybody right at the moment when the merges started, that you can merge now willingly, and if not, that you have to merge eventually forced. Also they mentioned that events will be reduced, and stopped eventually, because many strong players chose to merge right away, which means that players who stayed behind, could have scored nice event rewards easily because of lack of competition.

              I understand the position you are in right now. But i also believe, that if alliances would share more information with eachother, and if players would take a look at forums more often, most of such problems could be prevented. Also the knownledge about gears etc could be sharpened by just visiting the forums etc,,

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              • #8
                Originally posted by concerned player1 View Post
                U must be doing something wrong or have wrong heros assigned to lose that much. Everyone knows its dieing and until hero stacking ends it will continue to die
                See the reply to yeti.

                Also consider that there are indeed some that do not do the stacking before opening.

                How about if someone was open and went offline or fell asleep and the alliance caught it in reports and tried to help, so it was not pre-meditated reinforcing? Are you saying "tough luck, I win"?

                How about the fact that attackers send out a first wave with no heroes so as to force the 3 assigned heroes to rest, then follow with their strong heroes while the defender's heroes are resting? Tough luck again?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by some1from80 View Post
                  I am 3-4 months behind because I did not go in the allegedly "voluntary" merge. I had actually hoped they would relent and let us stay because there was a huge problem with events on world 80 being sabotaged by someone who had at least 50 alts. That person moved to 132, and without the hindsight of knowing Kabam would stop enabling ToM-TK-ToM daisy-chaining, I and others felt it best to stay behind. Because of how things played out, with our events being stopped on Dec 1, so no Winter event or Season 4, and I could not participate in Purgatory, I don't have any elevated heroes, and I just did campaign 4 while others were wasting time with Inferno, so Tristan is on my agenda.

                  So, polite noob inference notwithstanding (not your fault, did not know the circumstance, but it is what it is), there are likely others in my same predicament.. They may have gotten there in different ways, like perhaps not being lucky with random stat gear, or not being able to get hammers (a problem I face too), but I am fairly certain that there are many players just starting to get to where they feel like they can open and not be giving away 4 times as much TK as they get.

                  I think you all forget that not everyone is packing as much heat, offense or defense, as you are, and as such, viewed from my perspective, you all come across as having an apparent air of entitlement to easy winnings. Someone mentioned a 400% boost with a hero. Give me a break. That seems like what morganna mentioned about over-correcting.

                  If I saw what looked like more rational requests rather than "I am the attacker so I should win", then I would be far more willing to engage in a discussion, but the message coming across right now seems to be one of where attackers feel entitled to easy wins.

                  Its not attackers win really its more even playing field. In past 100k sent would kil about 70k of same tier which is acceptable by most but now u need to fury to get that similar stat. People are killing 20to 40k with same attack sent due to hero stacking its nonsense and needs be addresses

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                  • #10
                    I apologise for how the tone of that message came across I was going into a meeting, Feel free to private message me and I will talk you through which Heros to assign to best meet your needs, I realise not everyone will have the same level of hero, my comment however they came across still are correct, hence suggesting asking your alliance for help.

                    As to Heros resting again I mention read through there skills this will honestly help.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Bierkes_Ector123 View Post
                      If i remember correctly, kabam has notified everybody right at the moment when the merges started, that you can merge now willingly, and if not, that you have to merge eventually forced. Also they mentioned that events will be reduced, and stopped eventually, because many strong players chose to merge right away, which means that players who stayed behind, could have scored nice event rewards easily because of lack of competition.

                      I understand the position you are in right now. But i also believe, that if alliances would share more information with eachother, and if players would take a look at forums more often, most of such problems could be prevented. Also the knownledge about gears etc could be sharpened by just visiting the forums etc,,

                      The "you are merging no matter what" came later. The event cutoff was called a "shortage of supply" or some such nonsense. How can a virtual item made in memory and stored in a field of a record in a database be in "short supply"? Disk space constraints? You'd think they might speed up clearing of items that cannot be used (fey trickery or unexpected error when you try to use them).

                      As for alliances sharing info, no argument, but if you just could not get the right random stat gear, then you would likely use the hammers you have on the gear you do have available, and now may be lacking hammers for the better fixed-stat gear.

                      Also, you are EU, while I am NA. EU has had different gear, different round tower exchanges (even pre-grail fragment), different mini-games (DanaKabam's posts), and who knows what else for quite some time, so direct comparisons won't work between NA and EU.

                      Frankly, NA has been mostly abandoned by the company and is mainly on auto-pilot.

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                      • #12
                        I agree with your comment on EU v na worlds however with 2 less gear sets its more likely the na players will have some spare hammers.

                        I think there wasn't a promise either way on what would happen to the old worlds once the mergers started. However I always intended to merge so it's not sokething I took massive notice of at the time.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by CHOSEN_YETI View Post
                          I apologise for how the tone of that message came across I was going into a meeting, Feel free to private message me and I will talk you through which Heros to assign to best meet your needs, I realise not everyone will have the same level of hero, my comment however they came across still are correct, hence suggesting asking your alliance for help.

                          As to Heros resting again I mention read through there skills this will honestly help.
                          I am an unemployed, H1-B Visa displaced (and somewhat blacklisted) IT worker (programming and system admin), so I do RTFM from time to time It has just been over the past few weeks while people were preoccupied with Inferno (slogan: "Inferno - Come and get burned"), that I was really able to start catching up (snagged pendragon pieces and hammers).

                          The point though is "everyone" is a term thrown around like it is fact. Reality is that there are some just catching up that will hunker down again (turtle, hug, etc...) if a big "huff and puff and blow your house in" bad attack hero/gear gets put out there.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by CHOSEN_YETI View Post
                            I agree with your comment on EU v na worlds however with 2 less gear sets its more likely the na players will have some spare hammers.

                            I think there wasn't a promise either way on what would happen to the old worlds once the mergers started. However I always intended to merge so it's not sokething I took massive notice of at the time.
                            Excess maybe, but unless a gemmer, only up to lv 7, and that is if they are in an alliance that places high enough for those, or are able to get a drop from the 7 stamina final stage in campaign 4.

                            The recent 8 comps only needing 150th place are nice, but not frequent enough and rather scattershot with respect to time of day.

                            For non-gemmers though, the future hinges on what they will do with campaign. I am really expecting a severe reduction in the amount of troops you can get from campaign, and various "creative stamina requirements" for those as well, as the Chinese/Asian market's "Pay-to-Win" monetization is really ingrained now.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by CHOSEN_YETI View Post
                              I apologise for how the tone of that message came across I was going into a meeting, Feel free to private message me and I will talk you through which Heros to assign to best meet your needs, I realise not everyone will have the same level of hero, my comment however they came across still are correct, hence suggesting asking your alliance for help.

                              As to Heros resting again I mention read through there skills this will honestly help.


                              Yeti are u refering to defense setup as im assuming or attack setup.

                              End result is less n less attacking in 133 Im guessing it might be 10 and thats if they have fury of the 10 maybe 5 attack regsrdless of ratio just to kill something

                              It really is getting old and most of it is due to heros being stacked

                              Yes u can fall asleep open what happened to t1 reinforce now its srnd heros no troops.

                              Miss the old days were everyone shared troips and not just heros.

                              I open and attack but hardly ever get hit as is case for most. So just attack majority of time but Ok its really getting boring always hitting bunch heros

                              Kabam do whats rght dont allow more then 3 heros per city.

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