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  • Heros not making a difference in battles

    Is it me or it seems Heros are not making a difference in battles anymore?

    Bug Description: Heros (level 100) doing a very small amount of TKs. Sir Owain (level 100) does not boost troops attack. Sir Gareth (level 100) does not boost troops life.

    Steps to Reproduce: Attack a city with Sir Owain. Attack city again without Sir Owain using the same knight and same type of troops and amount. Observe battle report.

    Have someone attack you and defend with Sir Gareth. Have that person attack again using same knight and same type of troops and amount but defend without Sir Gareth. Observe battle report.

    Expected Result: When attacking with Sir Owain or defending with Sir Gareth (level 100), you should get a big advantage.

    Actual Result: The advantage is very small, about 1%. With all things equal, attacking with 100k troops will get you 101K troops kill with level 100 Sir Owain. Same with defending with level 100 Sir Gareth.

    Username & World: Shotgun, Howell78

    Device(s) Bug occurred on: iPhone 5s and probably all devices.

  • #2
    Originally posted by Shotgun 78 View Post
    Is it me or it seems Heros are not making a difference in battles anymore?

    Bug Description: Heros (level 100) doing a very small amount of TKs. Sir Owain (level 100) does not boost troops attack. Sir Gareth (level 100) does not boost troops life.

    Steps to Reproduce: Attack a city with Sir Owain. Attack city again without Sir Owain using the same knight and same type of troops and amount. Observe battle report.

    Have someone attack you and defend with Sir Gareth. Have that person attack again using same knight and same type of troops and amount but defend without Sir Gareth. Observe battle report.

    Expected Result: When attacking with Sir Owain or defending with Sir Gareth (level 100), you should get a big advantage.

    Actual Result: The advantage is very small, about 1%. With all things equal, attacking with 100k troops will get you 101K troops kill with level 100 Sir Owain. Same with defending with level 100 Sir Gareth.

    Username & World: Shotgun, Howell78

    Device(s) Bug occurred on: iPhone 5s and probably all devices.
    I am having the same issues with all my lvl 100 heroes stopped working in PvP for both offence and defence battles.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Shotgun 78 View Post
      Is it me or it seems Heros are not making a difference in battles anymore?

      Bug Description: Heros (level 100) doing a very small amount of TKs. Sir Owain (level 100) does not boost troops attack. Sir Gareth (level 100) does not boost troops life.

      Steps to Reproduce: Attack a city with Sir Owain. Attack city again without Sir Owain using the same knight and same type of troops and amount. Observe battle report.

      Have someone attack you and defend with Sir Gareth. Have that person attack again using same knight and same type of troops and amount but defend without Sir Gareth. Observe battle report.

      Expected Result: When attacking with Sir Owain or defending with Sir Gareth (level 100), you should get a big advantage.

      Actual Result: The advantage is very small, about 1%. With all things equal, attacking with 100k troops will get you 101K troops kill with level 100 Sir Owain. Same with defending with level 100 Sir Gareth.

      Username & World: Shotgun, Howell78

      Device(s) Bug occurred on: iPhone 5s and probably all devices.
      Same here, sent Heros but they didn't appear in report or give me a boost.
      mindsarentmagic

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      • #4
        This is definitely happening. Can kabam advise ASAP before we waste money and might on a campaign if heroes are worthless like the old hammers?

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        • #5
          Hi Kanoona and Rukkirii,
          Has this issue been passed along to the dev team? Are there any updates? Thanks.

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          • #6
            No Hero Help

            I am also in Howell 78, my heros are not level 100, but they do not seem to offer any advantage either

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            • #7
              Um there is a massive diff. Like 69k t3 diff when he is unassined compared to assigned.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Shotgun 78 View Post
                Is it me or it seems Heros are not making a difference in battles anymore?

                Bug Description: Heros (level 100) doing a very small amount of TKs. Sir Owain (level 100) does not boost troops attack. Sir Gareth (level 100) does not boost troops life.

                Steps to Reproduce: Attack a city with Sir Owain. Attack city again without Sir Owain using the same knight and same type of troops and amount. Observe battle report.

                Have someone attack you and defend with Sir Gareth. Have that person attack again using same knight and same type of troops and amount but defend without Sir Gareth. Observe battle report.

                Expected Result: When attacking with Sir Owain or defending with Sir Gareth (level 100), you should get a big advantage.

                Actual Result: The advantage is very small, about 1%. With all things equal, attacking with 100k troops will get you 101K troops kill with level 100 Sir Owain. Same with defending with level 100 Sir Gareth.

                Username & World: Shotgun, Howell78

                Device(s) Bug occurred on: iPhone 5s and probably all devices.
                Hello Shotgun,

                Thank you for the detailed bug report, would you please be able to provide me with the battle reports for these instances?

                Thanks!

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                • #9
                  Hi Kanoona,

                  Please see the 2 battle reports below. The first battle report shows me attacking without Sir Owain. The second report shows me attacking with Sir Owain. I've used the same knight for both attacks and the defender used the same knight also. Without Sir Owain, I killed 80,803 troops. With Sir Owain, I killed 81,364 troops. The difference is only 561 more troops killed with Sir Owain. My Sir Owain is level 100 with a 77% boost to troops Attack. As you can see by the numbers, the boost is not in effect.



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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Shotgun 78 View Post
                    Hi Kanoona,

                    Please see the 2 battle reports below. The first battle report shows me attacking without Sir Owain. The second report shows me attacking with Sir Owain. I've used the same knight for both attacks and the defender used the same knight also. Without Sir Owain, I killed 80,803 troops. With Sir Owain, I killed 81,364 troops. The difference is only 561 more troops killed with Sir Owain. My Sir Owain is level 100 with a 77% boost to troops Attack. As you can see by the numbers, the boost is not in effect.



                    The 77% boost applies by him being assigned the 77% boost is seperate from the march as elite unit.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Canadiank View Post
                      The 77% boost applies by him being assigned the 77% boost is seperate from the march as elite unit.
                      So before the update, the 77% boosts applied when Sir Owain march as an elite unit. Are you saying that it now applied when Sir Owain is assigned to a city? The boosts is on ALL the time?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Shotgun 78 View Post
                        So before the update, the 77% boosts applied when Sir Owain march as an elite unit. Are you saying that it now applied when Sir Owain is assigned to a city? The boosts is on ALL the time?
                        I don't see a response from this almost 3 weeks ago. This needs to be confirmed or denied, and better yet explained. The way I read this, why send the hero? And experience on a much lower experience scale disproves this. I get creamed all the time when I forget to assign the hero. Same march with hero - success. This is against Wilds, Picts and on Campaigns. Is PvP different?
                        And then on defense, why don't defense heroes always defend even when city is closed?

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                        • #13
                          Why cant we get a straight answer about our questions here? Spent many scrolls to get vivian to go with enid. Both about useless in battle. My main issue is that the rules of combat seem to change without notice. We invest in top items for an advantage. Heros used to rock now
                          they add very little unless assigned. In that case i only need 3 and i had them already. Im sick of having to buy things to see if they work and be sorely disappointed. Smh

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Jackbv123 View Post
                            I don't see a response from this almost 3 weeks ago. This needs to be confirmed or denied, and better yet explained. The way I read this, why send the hero? And experience on a much lower experience scale disproves this. I get creamed all the time when I forget to assign the hero. Same march with hero - success. This is against Wilds, Picts and on Campaigns. Is PvP different?
                            And then on defense, why don't defense heroes always defend even when city is closed?
                            Heroes like owain and gareth have 2 parts to their abilities. One would be providing troop attack increase/troop life increase while another would be fighting or defending as an elite unit. Both are separated from each other and works differently. For the boost in % to be applied, they just need to be assigned to the city that you are attacking or defending. The other would be marching or defending as an elite unit which would mean the hero itself is fighting alongside your troops. If you are reining your city with heroes, they will not provide the boost towards the city you rein but will only provide constant defending as an elite unit. For comparison sake, the boost gives better ratios than elite unit ability.

                            On why doesn't the heroes defend when your cities are closed, it's cause your cities are closed, you are not planning on defending so they would not be bothered to defend.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Karma_97 View Post
                              Why cant we get a straight answer about our questions here? Spent many scrolls to get vivian to go with enid. Both about useless in battle. My main issue is that the rules of combat seem to change without notice. We invest in top items for an advantage. Heros used to rock now
                              they add very little unless assigned. In that case i only need 3 and i had them already. Im sick of having to buy things to see if they work and be sorely disappointed. Smh
                              I have explained quite a bit in the above post on heroes. On Enid and Laudine, I have not tested it yet as I do not planned to get them or lv them up as I'm planning on defense. However based on their abilities description, both of them should be able to attack better than Palamedes and Gareth.

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