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    Wrong battle result

    I've defended against a 114 knight led attacker while my 212 knight was assigned as Marshall. My barkskin was activated and the attacker has no item buffs. From my calculation, the ratios should be AT LEAST 2:1. However, the result shows I lost 400k might comparing to the attacker's 700k might drop. The might ratio drop for the attacker was less than I expected. Anyone here knows the reason why? Is my calculations wrong or do some knights provide more bonuses than others?
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    more info needed.

    troops involved on both sides. for ex: since t2 are as powerful as 2 t1's but the might is 4x as much that would change ratio.

    walls involved?

    were poison edge and healing the same on both sides?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Farmer Bob View Post
      more info needed.

      troops involved on both sides. for ex: since t2 are as powerful as 2 t1's but the might is 4x as much that would change ratio.

      walls involved?

      were poison edge and healing the same on both sides?

      No walls. The attacking troops were 3k tier 3s rams and the rest were tier 2s(total90k) my defending army was composed of 3k rams also but the rest were tier 1s.(also 90k. Yep, I was zeroed in the attack lol) Since tier 1s have 1/4 the might value of those tier 2s but with half the strength(attack and defense) of tier 2 , I expected the ratio to be 2:1 in the least. A 3:1 is the actual ratio I expect. Thanks for responding so quickly to my post. You are awesome bob

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      • #4
        Originally posted by CaptainAngry View Post
        No walls. The attacking troops were 3k tier 3s rams and the rest were tier 2s(total90k) my defending army was composed of 3k rams also but the rest were tier 1s.(also 90k. Yep, I was zeroed in the attack lol) Since tier 1s have 1/4 the might value of those tier 2s but with half the strength(attack and defense) of tier 2 troops(with my Marshall's bonuse), I expected the ratio to be 2:1 in the least. A 3:1 is the actual ratio I expect. Thanks for responding so quickly to my post. You are awesome bob
        Tier1s are 1/4 the might value of tier 2s. And my whole army numbered at 90k with 3k rams, and rest tier 1s. See why I believe the result was wrong? If tier 1s inflict 2x more might losses against tier 2s when knights are equally leveled, they should killed 4x as much might when my knight is 2x level higher and a barkskin was activated

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        • #5
          You did not mention whether or not you had equal levels of research. IF that is the case, than the attackers troop strength was 375720 while yours was 258390. He got a lifesaving bonus as a result of overmatching you which could account for the lower might loss than you were calculating.

          If your troops had of killed an equal amount of troop strength youd have taken out 63958 T2 for a might killed of just over a million. That is not beyond the realms of expectations. Heck, even if he was at half levels of research you'd only matchup with 71k of his T3.

          Troop types (artillery, foot, and horse) and quantity of each also can play a factor.

          Shaedes

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Shaedes View Post
            You did not mention whether or not you had equal levels of research. IF that is the case, than the attackers troop strength was 375720 while yours was 258390. He got a lifesaving bonus as a result of overmatching you which could account for the lower might loss than you were calculating.

            If your troops had of killed an equal amount of troop strength youd have taken out 63958 T2 for a might killed of just over a million. That is not beyond the realms of expectations. Heck, even if he was at half levels of research you'd only matchup with 71k of his T3.

            Troop types (artillery, foot, and horse) and quantity of each also can play a factor

            Shaedes
            Hm... Did not really answer my question. Researches were the same. The only differences were the knight levels, and the troop tiers. And also I had an item buff(barkskin) attacker did not

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            • #7
              Originally posted by CaptainAngry View Post
              Hm... Did not really answer my question. Researches were the same. The only differences were the knight levels, and the troop tiers. And also I had an item buff(barkskin) attacker did not
              I did answer your question. He overmatched you by a fair margin (around 50%) so he got a lifesaving bonus when his losses were calculated. The bonus is determined by how much advantage you have over your opponent which includes the troop types/number of the defender and attacker.

              Shaedes

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Shaedes View Post
                I did answer your question. He overmatched you by a fair margin (around 50%) so he got a lifesaving bonus when his losses were calculated. The bonus is determined by how much advantage you have over your opponent which includes the troop types/number of the defender and attacker.

                Shaedes
                My defending troops had 3 types tier 1s each numbered around 20k and a ram numbering 3k. The attacking troops had rams numbered 3k and each type of tier 2s around 28k. If what you said was true, then how do you explain this?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by CaptainAngry View Post
                  My defending troops had 3 types tier 1s each numbered around 20k and a ram numbering 3k. The attacking troops had rams numbered 3k and each type of tier 2s around 28k. If what you said was true, then how do you explain this?
                  Look dude. Ive explained it twice. The guy's force was stronger than yours by a fair margin and he got a lifesaving bonus as a result, resulting in less of your opponents troops killed and less of your opponents might lost. I dont know how I can make it any clearer.

                  Using the numbers given earlier:
                  Your Opponents troop strength: 375720
                  Your Troop Strength: 258390

                  The absolute most you could have killed would have been just shy of 64,000 Tier 2. Since the attacker won by a fair margin he only lost in the neighborhood of 43,750 troops.

                  The lifesaving bonus roll was kind to him for sure, but it is not outside the realms of expectations.

                  Shaedes

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                  • #10
                    The lifesaving bonus he refers to is often called winners advantage, better known as 'defenders advantage', as defenders usually recieve it more often. Since his force was so much larger than yours, his troops suffered fewer losses than it should have because of the amount it overpowered you, giving it a buff.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Blaze6210 View Post
                      The lifesaving bonus he refers to is often called winners advantage, better known as 'defenders advantage', as defenders usually recieve it more often. Since his force was so much larger than yours, his troops suffered fewer losses than it should have because of the amount it overpowered you, giving it a buff.
                      Thanks! Now I see why. Your explanation is sooooooo much better than that of shaedes

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