Urgent: Fix arena matchmaking

[Sniffy]

I've seen many posts regarding the Gk% drop which are pointless, now, this is an issue that requires atention.

Ever since the 4.0 update, arena became a torture, I don't know why they even had to mess with the matchmaking system on the first place, since it was better than what it is now, at the moment you start an arena and get close to 2,000 might everything goes nuts, you start to face oponents that are waaay up in the ladder and stronger that you, I think I get how it's working, but the deployment is awful. On a 20K Might arena you start facing the Rank 1-10 players at 3K Might when they already finished it.

Here's how I think it's working:
On Challenge you face the oponents that are Ranked the highest on the ladder and that are stronger than you. (have seen lower)
On Average you face the oponents that are Ranked similar to you on the ladder and their base stats are also similar to yours. (have seen higher and lower)
On Easy you face the oponents that are Ranked similar or lower to you on the ladder and their base stats are similar or lower. (have seen even higher)

Now, when you first join the arena, you start facing weak oponents, but when you get close to 2K Might things go haywire, you enter the tiers mentioned above, starting with the weaker oponents of each tier and which position in the ladder is lower, and once you beat them and you gain might, difficulty increases fast. To the point where you can't beat your oponents anymore and refreshing won't cut it, the only ways to advance or get lower oponents is by starting to lose a few fights or by asking your oponents to lower their parties. OH, and once you beat the oponents of certain tier, you get their places replaced by oponents of the other tiers, say that you beat the oponents on the "Challenge" tier because they had their party lowered, soon you will get the "Challenge" tier to be filled up with oponents from the "Average" tier.

The problem with this matchmaking system is that the oponents you face have very similar base stats than you or higher, little times lower, and that makes keeping a streak extremely difficult, refreshing is not a viable option when you already beat several times a certain oponent and it will pretty much will get discarded as an oponent, the only ways to get him back is by losing or if he starts gaining might.

The concept of this Matchmaking is actually decent, but is was poorly implemented and should've been removed quickly, but it's still here and it's an annoyance, so PLEASE Sp4zrocker, push this to the team under the "Important" stuff and give us the previous matchmaking system back.

I've seen many posts regarding the Gk% drop which are pointless, now, this is an issue that requires atention.

Ever since the 4.0 update, arena became a torture, I don't know why they even had to mess with the matchmaking system on the first place, since it was better than what it is now, at the moment you start an arena and get close to 2,000 might everything goes nuts, you start to face oponents that are waaay up in the ladder and stronger that you, I think I get how it's working, but the deployment is awful. On a 20K Might arena you start facing the Rank 1-10 players at 3K Might when they already finished it.

Here's how I think it's working:
On Challenge you face the oponents that are Ranked the highest on the ladder and that are stronger than you. (have seen lower)
On Average you face the oponents that are Ranked similar to you on the ladder and their base stats are also similar to yours. (have seen higher and lower)
On Easy you face the oponents that are Ranked similar or lower to you on the ladder and their base stats are similar or lower. (have seen even higher)

Now, when you first join the arena, you start facing weak oponents, but when you get close to 2K Might things go haywire, you enter the tiers mentioned above, starting with the weaker oponents of each tier and which position in the ladder is lower, and once you beat them and you gain might, difficulty increases fast. To the point where you can't beat your oponents anymore and refreshing won't cut it, the only ways to advance or get lower oponents is by starting to lose a few fights or by asking your oponents to lower their parties. OH, and once you beat the oponents of certain tier, you get their places replaced by oponents of the other tiers, say that you beat the oponents on the "Challenge" tier because they had their party lowered, soon you will get the "Challenge" tier to be filled up with oponents from the "Average" tier.

The problem with this matchmaking system is that the oponents you face have very similar base stats than you or higher, little times lower, and that makes keeping a streak extremely difficult, refreshing is not a viable option when you already beat several times a certain oponent and it will pretty much will get discarded as an oponent, the only ways to get him back is by losing or if he starts gaining might.

The concept of this Matchmaking is actually decent, but is was poorly implemented and should've been removed quickly, but it's still here and it's an annoyance, so PLEASE Sp4zrocker, push this to the team under the "Important" stuff and give us the previous matchmaking system back.

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Seriously I think this will be one of the biggest problems for this game if this isn’t changed. What was wrong with the previous Arena system? I didn’t saw many complaints about this and still you change stuff to your liking and don’t listen to your HC players. You will loose some for sure. I can tell you that this change is the deathblow for even a P2PP.

The original system was affected by the global arena update. Global Arena had some issues and was sent back to development but the matchmaking system did not revert. The game team has been aware of how tough the arenas have been. When I have some more concrete details the GM team will announce the good news, but in the mean time, I'm going to try to make your arena experience easier.

I will be playing around with might rewards. Not the rewards themselves but the amount of might you win and the end of the battle. We'll see if that helps the climb.

The original system was affected by the global arena update. Global Arena had some issues and was sent back to development but the matchmaking system did not revert. The game team has been aware of how tough the arenas have been. When I have some more concrete details the GM team will announce the good news, but in the mean time, I'm going to try to make your arena experience easier.

I will be playing around with might rewards. Not the rewards themselves but the amount of might you win and the end of the battle. We'll see if that helps the climb.

Well I'm glad you hoped by, there is some might awarding fluctuations currently that do help a little, but are only noticeable at a reasonable streak, so if this tweaks you do have an impact on the "lower streak" spectrum it would be great as a temporary fix.

Thanks from the quick response and we hope to hear news about the big fix soon! (Not that soon )

The original system was affected by the global arena update. Global Arena had some issues and was sent back to development but the matchmaking system did not revert. The game team has been aware of how tough the arenas have been. When I have some more concrete details the GM team will announce the good news, but in the mean time, I'm going to try to make your arena experience easier.

I will be playing around with might rewards. Not the rewards themselves but the amount of might you win and the end of the battle. We'll see if that helps the climb.

Is it only me or has the arena system never been just right?
Whether it's been version 1.0 or this latest installment, there has always been something wrong in some way, shape or form.
Not that I'm complaining though. Everyone is in the same struggle. From the bottom to the top.
Pretty much just have to adjust to things and make the best of it.
Streaks have been worth only a small might boost ever since the ELO system was implemented so the best thing to do is horde tickets and go kamikaze and enjoy the added streak bonuses in both wins and losses.
Its 100X better than trying to refresh and wait to build a significant streak.

Is it only me or has the arena system never been just right?
Whether it's been version 1.0 or this latest installment, there has always been something wrong in some way, shape or form.
Not that I'm complaining though. Everyone is in the same struggle. From the bottom to the top.
Pretty much just have to adjust to things and make the best of it.
Streaks have been worth only a small might boost ever since the ELO system was implemented so the best thing to do is horde tickets and go kamikaze and enjoy the added streak bonuses in both wins and losses.
Its 100X better than trying to refresh and wait to build a significant streak.

I don't understand how this is fun, though. It takes HOURS to finish any arena over 10k this way. And there's no way I'm wasting my life grinding 25-30k arenas out like that. Forget that nonsense, not fun at all

I don't understand how this is fun, though. It takes HOURS to finish any arena over 10k this way. And there's no way I'm wasting my life grinding 25-30k arenas out like that. Forget that nonsense, not fun at all

Yeah I hear you, its a chore indeed, I wouldn't classify it as fun either, only as necessary with what we have.
What I find to be helpful is to always do something more important at the same time: watch a game, play another app, eat a snack, listen to music, etc.
In fact I almost never play this app as an exclusive activity, unless time is about to expire.

The original system was affected by the global arena update. Global Arena had some issues and was sent back to development but the matchmaking system did not revert. The game team has been aware of how tough the arenas have been. When I have some more concrete details the GM team will announce the good news, but in the mean time, I'm going to try to make your arena experience easier.

I will be playing around with might rewards. Not the rewards themselves but the amount of might you win and the end of the battle. We'll see if that helps the climb.

Thank you for the reply Spaz and this looks promising.

Thanks sp4z.