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  • dariangel
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    te apoyo solo saben llorar

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  • the real Allslayar
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    Originally posted by Mason Phoenix View Post
    Nice maths but the reality is some revives almost always work which basically gives you 70% reflect damage 4 out of 5 times. Mana cost isn't really an issue as I run a 335 mana team when taking on bosses (and use stat reset for ranking in events)
    335! Wtf dude I run both reflects 77 mana lvl 50 boss dies in no more than 5 fights. Way to waste ur money on Stat resets hope kabam is rewarding u for carrying your realm

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  • Mason Phoenix
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    Originally posted by drair View Post
    You cant say that !

    The 2 reflect team with revive has a total mana cost of 57 (with Cultists revive), for 35% reflect dmg .... i.e 1.62 mana pr 1% reflect dmg

    The 3 reflect team (with a 3mana card as the last card) has a total mana cost of 48, for 45% reflect dmg .... i.e 1.06 mana pr 1% reflect dmg

    Hence the revive team needs to revive more than 50% of the times in order for the 2team to be most efficient .... which sounds about where it is (but nobody know the exact figure)

    So in all practice the 2 different reflect combos are equal efficient
    Nice maths but the reality is some revives almost always work which basically gives you 70% reflect damage 4 out of 5 times. Mana cost isn't really an issue as I run a 335 mana team when taking on bosses (and use stat reset for ranking in events)

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  • drair
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    Originally posted by Mason Phoenix View Post
    Um no. Gwar and Drust is the most effective reflect because it is a 2 card combo that you can revive. Thereby allowing two reflect atks per boss battle.

    *puts hankie away*
    You cant say that !

    The 2 reflect team with revive has a total mana cost of 57 (with Cultists revive), for 35% reflect dmg .... i.e 1.62 mana pr 1% reflect dmg

    The 3 reflect team (with a 3mana card as the last card) has a total mana cost of 48, for 45% reflect dmg .... i.e 1.06 mana pr 1% reflect dmg

    Hence the revive team needs to revive more than 50% of the times in order for the 2team to be most efficient .... which sounds about where it is (but nobody know the exact figure)

    So in all practice the 2 different reflect combos are equal efficient

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  • Mason Phoenix
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    Originally posted by the real Allslayar View Post
    You guys who are complaining about the gwar reflect get ur hankies ready. Omg there's two reflects n the other is stronger than gwar. So now it's not hinged on drust the 3 card combo involved a farmable boss an arena 3k reward n a snow chest prize or mini game drop. Btw I have both combos
    Um no. Gwar and Drust is the most effective reflect because it is a 2 card combo that you can revive. Thereby allowing two reflect atks per boss battle.

    *puts hankie away*

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  • Midnight Rhapsody
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    It is intentional for players to get those reflect combos, don't you see the snow chests given as arena reward, limit time 7k gem.

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  • the real Allslayar
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    Originally posted by Mason Phoenix View Post
    I agree but you are missing the point. Not everybody has reflect. And as a result of one new combo, one card - Drust - they are at a massive disadvantage to others who can easily farm lv50 bosses in a few pots. A big gap is growing already between those that have reflect and those that don't in my realm as a result. It simply isn't equitable and doesn't correlate with hard work/tactical prowess - just luck at owning Drust and Kabam deciding in one stroke it would be the card to get a 2 card reflect ability. Gwar could then be easily farmed in first event. Now these people have 4 strong Godlies 8 carded including the strongest card of all - Ice Overlord.
    You guys who are complaining about the gwar reflect get ur hankies ready. Omg there's two reflects n the other is stronger than gwar. So now it's not hinged on drust the 3 card combo involved a farmable boss an arena 3k reward n a snow chest prize or mini game drop. Btw I have both combos

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  • Mason Phoenix
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    Originally posted by jordanvn View Post
    Well Kabam actually did have an Awaken Spirit Booster pack during the Gwar event which allowed everyone an equal opportunity to get Drust (and Veteran Paladin but Drust if the main topic) so it's not really unfair if you think about it if they gave everyone a chance to get Drust with a limited pool.
    That's a good point but the overlap was brief and at that point Most people didn't even know reflect worked against bosses.

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  • James25b
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    Originally posted by Kinslayer77 View Post
    Can you kindly nerf this card, every top dog appears to have the T4 version of this card. The skill is more powerful then 95% of the Combo's out there ffs and the proc rate should be 5% at best, it seems to be going off 20+%
    Please Nerf Spirits of Slaughter, Gods, Crack Knights, Druid's Elite, Golden Gods, etc as all the top dogs have them at T4 and ti's unfair.

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  • Eidolon66
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    Originally posted by Mason Phoenix View Post
    I agree but you are missing the point. Not everybody has reflect. And as a result of one new combo, one card - Drust - they are at a massive disadvantage to others who can easily farm lv50 bosses in a few pots. A big gap is growing already between those that have reflect and those that don't in my realm as a result. It simply isn't equitable and doesn't correlate with hard work/tactical prowess - just luck at owning Drust and Kabam deciding in one stroke it would be the card to get a 2 card reflect ability. Gwar could then be easily farmed in first event. Now these people have 4 strong Godlies 8 carded including the strongest card of all - Ice Overlord.
    Well Kabam actually did have an Awaken Spirit Booster pack during the Gwar event which allowed everyone an equal opportunity to get Drust (and Veteran Paladin but Drust if the main topic) so it's not really unfair if you think about it if they gave everyone a chance to get Drust with a limited pool.

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  • Mason Phoenix
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    Originally posted by the real Allslayar View Post
    Ur tripping I have a 6 card IO true it's op. My problem is with reflect bug talk, that combo is worthless except against bosses. Use it in arena n watch worthless. Best kabam idea ever u can now farm relatively easier 5 fights compared to 14 sorry but I have a life don't have time to fight lvl 50 50 plus times at 14 fights.
    I agree but you are missing the point. Not everybody has reflect. And as a result of one new combo, one card - Drust - they are at a massive disadvantage to others who can easily farm lv50 bosses in a few pots. A big gap is growing already between those that have reflect and those that don't in my realm as a result. It simply isn't equitable and doesn't correlate with hard work/tactical prowess - just luck at owning Drust and Kabam deciding in one stroke it would be the card to get a 2 card reflect ability. Gwar could then be easily farmed in first event. Now these people have 4 strong Godlies 8 carded including the strongest card of all - Ice Overlord.

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  • the real Allslayar
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    Originally posted by Mason Phoenix View Post
    I have Ice Overlord T4 and completely agree it should be nerfed. This card effectively wipes the slate clean and removes a lot of variety and tactics from arena battles. Everyone now is using this card as their face card. It is boring.

    That aside, it is not fair for players who didn't benefit from the new reflect combo/bug who have invested a lot of time and money in the game. Yes - change is good but not when it randomly benefits some and massively disadvantages others. People are right to complain about how overpowered Ice Overlord is.

    Part of me suspects this was a deliberate tactic on Kabam's part to reinvigorate the game for mid level players to get them spending and enable them to catch up with the big boys. Fine, but there are other mid level players now who through no fault of their own now have no chance because they couldn't farm Ice Overlord using the reflect 'bug'. Pretty disgusting if you ask me. I hope many players leave the game because of it and it negatively impacts Kabam's bottom line even more.
    Ur tripping I have a 6 card IO true it's op. My problem is with reflect bug talk, that combo is worthless except against bosses. Use it in arena n watch worthless. Best kabam idea ever u can now farm relatively easier 5 fights compared to 14 sorry but I have a life don't have time to fight lvl 50 50 plus times at 14 fights.

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  • James25b
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    Percival stops Icelord Proc, Gwar stun, other options.

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  • Choppy McChuckles
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    quit cryin

    Look...it's simple. The overpowered stats and proc are intentional. How else can kabam guarntee sales of chests and sum packs making it avalible. They know and are fine with it. Sorry if you want them reduced but to that I say u are selfish. How many players would not have bought the sum pack during the event if thr stats werent as they are? How angry will others players be if their card, they payed for or spent thousands of mana and days of farming to get, was nerfed overnight? Dont look at it as juat a spender point of view either. Plenty of players worked very hard and didnt spend at all to get their ice overlord. Hate kabam for marketing tactics if you wish, but dont ask for a reduction in stats of a card so many worked hard for.
    And if you must know THIS IS COMING FROM A GUY WITH NO ICE OVERLORD. I didnt get one but u dont see me whining do ya? Deal with it or play something else. Its so amazingly simple it just might work.

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  • spidermonkey uws
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    Originally posted by Mason Phoenix View Post
    You fool. Yes you can stun Ice Overlord with Gwar on first turn with a high mana team but Ices proc rate is still extremely high and you will lose more than you will win using that tactic. Also Gwar HP is extremely low meaning adding him as your face card to a tank team is not wise.
    Dont call me a fool. I never said you must put gwar there. you could put him there but there are more altenitives. Im just sick of the complains when a cards comes out and its good that cry baby's on forum make the dev numb a good card. It happens everytime it started with shiver and gaznar.

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