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  • Golden Forest by R.Kelly: Everyone is getting p*ssed on...

    So I feel like the Golden Galahad and Golden Galzra events combined with the Halloween event should've yielded a pretty good template for a solid event. Golden Galahad Kabam went over the top probably with the 3x 5*'s making the combo as well as SS drop rates. Golden Galzra culture shocked people because the pendulum swung heavily in the opposite direction. Moving from 20-30 stamina effectively nerfed SS drops by 50% energy per, but the ability to grind chests, the 4* level 40 feeders and the ability to get Galzra made it palatable. Halloween packs were interesting (Scarecrow combinations, etc), the Famine / Pestilence was fun for newer players and people who needed a better proc card than Karn, and the level 40 drops worked. Then...we hit Golden Forest.

    I usually try to keep my feedback with a positive spin (I.E. offer suggestions), but this event is flat trash. Between ONLY Donkey's dropping in hard, to no Rhiannon from exploring (or an infinitely small % chance), to VERY few chests if you're lucky enough to get one at all there's not much reason to march. The packs and combos are TRASH. The packs and combos are TRASH. Oh boy oh boy, Wind Whisperer? SWEET 200% Healing YAYYYY. Wild Huntress? 40% damage...BEAST! Ramrod? 50% HP cool, I can survive 1/2 a Crack Knights attack now. Blessing Stone? I'd rather get a kidney stone. Not much motivation to use the potions I anxiously earned in anticipation of this event or shell out money for useless cards.

    This event looked like a the paper you wrote in college the morning it was due because you forgot. Hopefully you all are saving everything up for the Vamb event, but somehow I doubt it. What do we have to look forward to with that one? Chests that only drop Taal?

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    easy drops

    The distribution of the exploration drops on easy looks something like this:

    boss/nothing: 25%
    ticket: 25%
    token: 20%
    donkey: 15%
    mule, ****, antler, mana pot, stamina pot: 1-2% each

    So, the value of a stamina pot spent on exploration is roughly:

    5 tickets
    2 tokens
    1-2 donkeys

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    • #3
      And hard drops look unimpressive as well, though I'm sure summon stones were dropping at a higher rate yesterday. Regardless, here's what I see currently.

      boss/nothing: 40%
      antlers: 50%
      golden ****: < 10%
      summon stone: 5%

      So the value of a stamina pot exploring hard is roughly:

      2 1/2 antlers
      1/2 golden ****
      1/4 summon stone

      SS rate updated to 5%, per below info from Pote. The below are my original comments.

      Again, I was amazed to only see 1 summon stone in 100 exporations. Either this sample isn't representative (random means random) or the drop rates have changed since yesterday. It's also possble that the drop rates are dependent on another factor that has changed since yesterday. I have not killed the boss today and I have more antlers than I did yesterday. Maybe one of those factors matters.

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      • #4
        Just for the hell of it I beat the easy boss 30 times, hoping that her drops would be a pleasant surprise.

        two star cards: 9
        three star cards: 6
        four star cards: 3
        gold: 5
        stamina pots: 4
        tickets: 3

        I realize that this is the easy boss, but come on. At least give us summon stones and max level cards here. Or maybe give us 6-10 tokens. The drops from the easy boss don't have to be amazing, but it should at least be something that a player wants to add to their inventory. There is, as usual, no reason to even attack the easy boss.

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        • #5
          Someone in another thread had SS drops at about 5% over 3000 marches in hard. That's pretty pathetic. I "think" the former rate was about 15% for 30 energy which would be another nerf.

          The funny part is they give us all these events where we can get "X or POTIONS!" Then don't give us anywhere to use the potions.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Potemkin Ch 5 View Post
            So I feel like the Golden Galahad and Golden Galzra events combined with the Halloween event should've yielded a pretty good template for a solid event. Golden Galahad Kabam went over the top probably with the 3x 5*'s making the combo as well as SS drop rates. Golden Galzra culture shocked people because the pendulum swung heavily in the opposite direction. Moving from 20-30 stamina effectively nerfed SS drops by 50% energy per, but the ability to grind chests, the 4* level 40 feeders and the ability to get Galzra made it palatable. Halloween packs were interesting (Scarecrow combinations, etc), the Famine / Pestilence was fun for newer players and people who needed a better proc card than Karn, and the level 40 drops worked. Then...we hit Golden Forest.

            I usually try to keep my feedback with a positive spin (I.E. offer suggestions), but this event is flat trash. Between ONLY Donkey's dropping in hard, to no Rhiannon from exploring (or an infinitely small % chance), to VERY few chests if you're lucky enough to get one at all there's not much reason to march. The packs and combos are TRASH. The packs and combos are TRASH. Oh boy oh boy, Wind Whisperer? SWEET 200% Healing YAYYYY. Wild Huntress? 40% damage...BEAST! Ramrod? 50% HP cool, I can survive 1/2 a Crack Knights attack now. Blessing Stone? I'd rather get a kidney stone. Not much motivation to use the potions I anxiously earned in anticipation of this event or shell out money for useless cards.

            This event looked like a the paper you wrote in college the morning it was due because you forgot. Hopefully you all are saving everything up for the Vamb event, but somehow I doubt it. What do we have to look forward to with that one? Chests that only drop Taal?
            LMFAO you had me dying, and no one could've said it better. At this point all I gotta say if f**k kabam for f*ck*ng us over constantly since the anniversary.

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            • #7
              450 pots @ 115stam
              40 SS
              2 'chests' beastmaster + shaman
              0 golden rhiannon..
              145 golden donkeys.
              Gathered about 25 of each token in easy.

              Ill wait to boss reset..but thats all..225 pots for a 4* card is enough for me...dont care about the resources,but the time spent.

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              • #8
                i think i'm the only one who was happy since yesterday for this event, yes the summon stones drop has been lowered a bit, but in general it's been the best event for me

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                • #9
                  NO drop, NO event!!!

                  Event ended in sooner than he began!!!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Suca View Post
                    i think i'm the only one who was happy since yesterday for this event, yes the summon stones drop has been lowered a bit, but in general it's been the best event for me
                    Out of curiosity, what have you gotten in this event that was so much better? Or did you just get lucky on Chests and you're projecting your luck on the design of the event?

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                    • #11
                      Just like all events that we run we take player feedback and concerns into account, and we will take it into consideration during the set up of future events. We adjusted the amount of stamina pots due to negative feedback and we tried adding donkeys instead of max feeders based on player input. We see that this isn't a good driver for player participation and while we will not be adjusting this event we will be taking players positive and negative input into account.

                      Pote,
                      No wonder you were trying to sell me your kidney

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Kabam_Smash View Post
                        Just like all events that we run we take player feedback and concerns into account, and we will take it into consideration during the set up of future events. We adjusted the amount of stamina pots due to negative feedback and we tried adding donkeys instead of max feeders based on player input. We see that this isn't a good driver for player participation and while we will not be adjusting this event we will be taking players positive and negative input into account.

                        Pote,
                        No wonder you were trying to sell me your kidney
                        What?? Are you trying to say that you got a significant number of people that complained that they didn't want to receive stamina pots or high level feeders??? WTH!

                        And how did you come to the decision to not include 5* cards on hard? There is pretty much nothing in hard we would want to pay 20 stam for aside from just getting into the boss fights. If the chest drops were more frequent at least it would give us something to work for but of course those drop rates were not and will not be increased... sigh.

                        I've been playing this game for a while now and I have to say that don't have any faith whatever in the Kabam team being able to get these things right. If the next event is like this, it will probably be my last.

                        The fact that you won't adjust this event even though you know it has been a total failure so far does not speak well of Kabam's ability to fix their mistakes.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Kabam_Smash View Post
                          Just like all events that we run we take player feedback and concerns into account, and we will take it into consideration during the set up of future events. We adjusted the amount of stamina pots due to negative feedback and we tried adding donkeys instead of max feeders based on player input. We see that this isn't a good driver for player participation and while we will not be adjusting this event we will be taking players positive and negative input into account.

                          Pote,
                          No wonder you were trying to sell me your kidney
                          Smash enough with the BS. You guys don't care for your players. Now stop saying you did this and that for the players. You guys did what you did for your own profit. This event sucks. After 7 city events you'd think kabam would know what the players want.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Kabam_Smash View Post
                            Just like all events that we run we take player feedback and concerns into account, and we will take it into consideration during the set up of future events. We adjusted the amount of stamina pots due to negative feedback and we tried adding donkeys instead of max feeders based on player input. We see that this isn't a good driver for player participation and while we will not be adjusting this event we will be taking players positive and negative input into account.

                            Pote,
                            No wonder you were trying to sell me your kidney
                            Thanks for the reply Smash. I think you could get a nice boost in the arm for this event if you simply:

                            1. Increase the drop rate for the chests dramatically. I'm thinking that they should have a 2% drop rate or better.
                            2. Make the marquee cards (e.g. Rhiannon) in the chests correspondingly less common.

                            Now we're not seeing Rhiannon left and right but we are getting other cards into players' hands. We're generating some sort of reward from the event.

                            Cheers,
                            Rosen

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                            • #15
                              What would be awesome is an event after vambreal that is like the grave lands with all four cards.... There have been a lot of new players sign up and missed the first 2 and are struggling with this event. The one with many rooms not just 2. Add a gem drop, when people get free gems they still buy lots of gems. Get rid of empty steps all together I would even be happy with a weak feeder. The ranom make up chest are and awesome idea, people spend money on those even if they have gems.

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