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[Tip] A little secret to enhance cards faster (and more cheaply).

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  • #31
    Originally posted by voidwards View Post
    The wikia is wrong and the person above me is wrong as well (unless I'm completely misunderstanding his conclusion). I have made a video that clearly demonstrates that enhancing can be better, which you can replicate in about one minute. It is uploading to youtube right now.
    what do you mean the wikia is wrong? the wikia just says how many cards at Lv 1 it takes to gain levels. it never says that that is the best way to level. Your comment is a blanket statement so please enlighten me on what you meant? It is also very player driven so it might be what you say it is.

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    • #32
      @Midnight:
      When you use a 2* card enhanced with 7 other 2* cards it makes it a Level 10.20 (20% progress towards level 11). When you take this Level 10.20 Uncommon and use it on another Uncommon at Level 1 the preview shows it enhances it to only Level 9.40. When you actually click enhance to enhance the card the experience bar is still at 9.40 meaning there is no hidden points gain (Level gain) when using it on an Uncommon as opposed to when you use it on Rares and up. Based on the experience gained from using this card I was able to see that it is worth about 30 points (actual is somewhere between 29.5 and 29.9 but I just round it up) when used on Uncommons and Commons. The amount of points that were used to create the Level 10.20 card is 40, 7 to enhance and then the card being enhanced. Had the 2* cards been used individually rather than to enhance another one first the level gain would have been higher. That is what it is showing.


      Quick Explanation of that list Midnight was referring to:
      I used that 7 card enhance that Void did on Rarities other than Ultra Rare to see what it did and I found out that the points gained are different. That list was suppose to show a comparison of what happens. Using enhanced cards on a Common, Uncommon and Rare will make you level slower and lose points. Rare does have a hidden gain when you actually enhance the card but it is still less points than just using cards that are not enhanced. I'm still testing Super Rare but so far using enhanced cards is the same as doing cards that are not enhanced as far as points (level speed) would go and it would save on gold. Using them on Ultra Rares as Void has shown gives you a great advantage. Basically what the +9 points means is that every time you use that Level 10 card to enhance it is like you are using almost 2 more 2* cards than what you put into making it.

      Notes:
      I use terms like Level 10.20 because there are more than one Level 10 Uncommon. There is a 7 card enhance (increase to Level 10.20) and an 8 card enhance (increase to level 10.95) both giving different experience gains. Same when using 2 1* cards to top off that Uncommon to Level 10. Where the experience bar is on the card being used to enhance will adjust the experience gained.
      I use these points calculations for cards because I feel it gives a better idea of just how much better or worse using certain enhanced cards or evolved cards will be when used for enhancing. The calculations for enhanced cards and even level gains I use are not perfectly exact. They are not always whole numbers and it is hard for me to determine exactly what the value is when it falls between them, but I still feel that it is a reliable way for comparing cards being used for enhancing.

      I hope this helped make things I was trying to show a little clearer.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Kidori View Post
        @Midnight:
        When you use a 2* card enhanced with 7 other 2* cards it makes it a Level 10.20 (20% progress towards level 11). When you take this Level 10.20 Uncommon and use it on another Uncommon at Level 1 the preview shows it enhances it to only Level 9.40. When you actually click enhance to enhance the card the experience bar is still at 9.40 meaning there is no hidden points gain (Level gain) when using it on an Uncommon as opposed to when you use it on Rares and up. Based on the experience gained from using this card I was able to see that it is worth about 30 points (actual is somewhere between 29.5 and 29.9 but I just round it up) when used on Uncommons and Commons. The amount of points that were used to create the Level 10.20 card is 40, 7 to enhance and then the card being enhanced. Had the 2* cards been used individually rather than to enhance another one first the level gain would have been higher. That is what it is showing.


        Quick Explanation of that list Midnight was referring to:
        I used that 7 card enhance that Void did on Rarities other than Ultra Rare to see what it did and I found out that the points gained are different. That list was suppose to show a comparison of what happens. Using enhanced cards on a Common, Uncommon and Rare will make you level slower and lose points. Rare does have a hidden gain when you actually enhance the card but it is still less points than just using cards that are not enhanced. I'm still testing Super Rare but so far using enhanced cards is the same as doing cards that are not enhanced as far as points (level speed) would go and it would save on gold. Using them on Ultra Rares as Void has shown gives you a great advantage. Basically what the +9 points means is that every time you use that Level 10 card to enhance it is like you are using almost 2 more 2* cards than what you put into making it.

        Notes:
        I use terms like Level 10.20 because there are more than one Level 10 Uncommon. There is a 7 card enhance (increase to Level 10.20) and an 8 card enhance (increase to level 10.95) both giving different experience gains. Same when using 2 1* cards to top off that Uncommon to Level 10. Where the experience bar is on the card being used to enhance will adjust the experience gained.
        I use these points calculations for cards because I feel it gives a better idea of just how much better or worse using certain enhanced cards or evolved cards will be when used for enhancing. The calculations for enhanced cards and even level gains I use are not perfectly exact. They are not always whole numbers and it is hard for me to determine exactly what the value is when it falls between them, but I still feel that it is a reliable way for comparing cards being used for enhancing.

        I hope this helped make things I was trying to show a little clearer.

        Thank you Kidori I apologize for my misunderstanding. From your research, this method only works on 5* card or above, and the best balance is the 12 card enhance.
        However, I believe the best balance shall be the 7 card enhance.
        Firstly, the Gold used on 7 card can be reduced to 725, if you enhance 1 card instead of 6 card first. And Diff to Exp of Cards used is 9/7=1.2857 exp per card
        compare to 12 card enhance, Diff to Exp of Cards used is 15/12=1.25 exp per card.

        I admire people who is intelligent and kind. Thank you all your effort to make HOC a better game.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Luteuel View Post
          what do you mean the wikia is wrong? the wikia just says how many cards at Lv 1 it takes to gain levels. it never says that that is the best way to level. Your comment is a blanket statement so please enlighten me on what you meant? It is also very player driven so it might be what you say it is.
          When I say the wikia is wrong I am referring to this part:

          The next question you might be having is what is the most efficient way of using feeders; Should you evolve them first, just level them up, both? Well basically the answer is No, you should just use your feeder cards as is with one exception, Cards that are able to evolve to tier four.
          This thread provides clear evidence that this statement is wrong.

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          • #35
            Thank you for your further tests, guys. I appreciate your help!

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Kidori View Post
              @Midnight:
              When you use a 2* card enhanced with 7 other 2* cards it makes it a Level 10.20 (20% progress towards level 11). When you take this Level 10.20 Uncommon and use it on another Uncommon at Level 1 the preview shows it enhances it to only Level 9.40. When you actually click enhance to enhance the card the experience bar is still at 9.40 meaning there is no hidden points gain (Level gain) when using it on an Uncommon as opposed to when you use it on Rares and up. Based on the experience gained from using this card I was able to see that it is worth about 30 points (actual is somewhere between 29.5 and 29.9 but I just round it up) when used on Uncommons and Commons. The amount of points that were used to create the Level 10.20 card is 40, 7 to enhance and then the card being enhanced. Had the 2* cards been used individually rather than to enhance another one first the level gain would have been higher. That is what it is showing.


              Quick Explanation of that list Midnight was referring to:
              I used that 7 card enhance that Void did on Rarities other than Ultra Rare to see what it did and I found out that the points gained are different. That list was suppose to show a comparison of what happens. Using enhanced cards on a Common, Uncommon and Rare will make you level slower and lose points. Rare does have a hidden gain when you actually enhance the card but it is still less points than just using cards that are not enhanced. I'm still testing Super Rare but so far using enhanced cards is the same as doing cards that are not enhanced as far as points (level speed) would go and it would save on gold. Using them on Ultra Rares as Void has shown gives you a great advantage. Basically what the +9 points means is that every time you use that Level 10 card to enhance it is like you are using almost 2 more 2* cards than what you put into making it.

              Notes:
              I use terms like Level 10.20 because there are more than one Level 10 Uncommon. There is a 7 card enhance (increase to Level 10.20) and an 8 card enhance (increase to level 10.95) both giving different experience gains. Same when using 2 1* cards to top off that Uncommon to Level 10. Where the experience bar is on the card being used to enhance will adjust the experience gained.
              I use these points calculations for cards because I feel it gives a better idea of just how much better or worse using certain enhanced cards or evolved cards will be when used for enhancing. The calculations for enhanced cards and even level gains I use are not perfectly exact. They are not always whole numbers and it is hard for me to determine exactly what the value is when it falls between them, but I still feel that it is a reliable way for comparing cards being used for enhancing.

              I hope this helped make things I was trying to show a little clearer.
              15 Cards = 12.5 (96) [+16] 2275g = 23.7
              1+15 is the maximum xp gain? (coincidentally, 15 uncommons = lvl 15, so I suppose one could say 1 lvl 15 uncommon since we could use commons and rares to enhance it).

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