Summoning Stone Drop Rate Nerf

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I am typiclly not one to speculate or complain about things but this particular incident is just too heinous to dismiss.

After all the farming and arenas over the past few days, I was able to collect quite a few summoning stones - 100 to be exact. And due to my impatient nature, I decided to blow them all instead of waiting for a promo like I originally wanted and should have done.

Net result: 3 - 5 star cards and 97 - 3 & 4 star cards.

Now I know that you can chalk it up to a horrendous bad luck streak of RNG but it seems too coincidental. The last 350$ I spent on cards had similar results: no legendaries.


I have been farming stones in calamity all day (roughly 40-50 more) and finally got my first legendary in who knows how long: and it was Hope. I will be in the corner crying if you need me.

[Guest]

I messed the title up its not drop rate for summoning stones its drop rate of legendaries for stones. sorry

[Guest]

I am typiclly not one to speculate or complain about things but this particular incident is just too heinous to dismiss.

After all the farming and arenas over the past few days, I was able to collect quite a few summoning stones - 100 to be exact. And due to my impatient nature, I decided to blow them all instead of waiting for a promo like I originally wanted and should have done.

Net result: 3 - 5 star cards and 97 - 3 & 4 star cards.

Now I know that you can chalk it up to a horrendous bad luck streak of RNG but it seems too coincidental. The last 350$ I spent on cards had similar results: no legendaries.


I have been farming stones in calamity all day (roughly 40-50 more) and finally got my first legendary in who knows how long: and it was Hope. I will be in the corner crying if you need me.

I've heard the same thing from a lot of people on my server as well. I can't confirm anything from personal experience as my deck is totally full and I'm stuck at the moment

[Guest]

I didnt ever measure but my "feeling" is that it´s always been around 3-5 5-star per 100

On charms someone did the math - 4star there is 1%. It´s not unreasonable to think that 5-star in regular summon is 3-5% as it starts from 3*.

[Guest]

are you confusing 5* with 6*? How many summon stones on avg for a 6?

[Guest]

I have just used 37 stones I earned from Calamity, and another few from arenas. I got 6 5* and 1 6* (Hope) the rest were 4* and 3*. Although I don't think it's been nerfed, it is just pure luck with stones. I usually have horrendous drops.

[Guest]

I have just used 37 stones I earned from Calamity, and another few from arenas. I got 6 5* and 1 6* (Hope) the rest were 4* and 3*. Although I don't think it's been nerfed, it is just pure luck with stones. I usually have horrendous drops.

i dont understand how it can be a streak of bad luck 100 times. At some point it has to be independent of luck. If I were to drop 1000 stones and got 0 6* and 30 5* would that be bad luck? I would think there is a problem. RNG is a pain but they have to specify drop rates with some type of % and at some point statistically you should be approaching enough samples that seeing a drop is >99% likely. may never know what that number is but its definitely not close to 100.

[Guest]

Youtube Khan Academy for some awesome tutorials on mathematical probabilities. Math is AWESOME!

[Guest]

During the Calamity promo, I did the equivalent of 523 summons (I could be off by a few, but at least 500), and didn't get a single legendary and only 7 5 star cards. I think the 5 star rate is between 1-3% and I'm convinced the 6 star rate is probably 0.1%.

I don't think they've been nerded, they've just always sucked

[Guest]

Probably over the 800+ mark of Summon Stones in the 3 months i've played this and no legendary card, but i think i just have bad luck with SS. Summon Charms on the other hand i usually get a 4* per 2000 SC uses.

[Guest]

Pyogenes stop trolling. And if you work for kabam talk about game internals that interest us
To main point. Many people farmed lot of stones during event and used them right away. That may add to bad summon results as I have feeling summoning rates are not individual per player but global per server

[Guest]

Not trolling this time... Just time for a little reality check. There are no guarantees in summoning or purchasing that you'll get that cool 5 or 6 star card. It's all based on probabilities. Is it probable that you'll roll a 1 at the end of the raid... not likely, but it is possible. And just because it happens to you... and someone you know... and someone they know... doesn't mean something is amiss. It just means you have anecdotal evidence of some occurrence. This has nothing to do with probabilities. Same with purchases or summons. Because YOU didn't get the cool card doesn't mean the game is rigged. Some other dude got a cool card on his summon. C'mon put things in perspective. It's okay to be a little down because it didn't work out for you, but it doesn't have to be "big bad kabam"'s fault. I think we inherently feel the need to blame someone, but there is no one to blame but ourselves for getting our hopes up too high... higher than can be supported by the mathematics.

[Leupoldjql]

lesson learned is wait for promo. Period. I used to do what you did but realized only time I got cards was during a promo. Seems not only do I get the promo card but the other drop rates are better. I try to save 200+ and wait for a 6* I need and roll the dice. The drop rates are very low except for 3* so might as well get your best chances when they are increased.

Just my 2 cents but I have great cards backing up my method.

[Guest]

I summoned 5 legends using approx 200 stones.

[Guest]

Hello folks,

While I understand frustrations when you don't summon what you want, we have not altered the summon stones drop rates at all from the standard weights that have been around for quite some time now.