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  • Why bother playing anymore??

    First off exactly what everyone are complaining about the arena! First problem were scripters and bots and now you have the shiver bug and reindeer bug! You can't get anywhere in the arena at all! Second the obvious split groups of players! You have the group where everything is handed to you with very little trying, the group where it's so so, and the group were you get nothing. Ppl get legendaries no problem in one group, the next get good amount of 4-5* cards, and the other all 3* and ur lucky to get a 4* card. One group farming father with 7 mana get a bottle every 20-30 fights, the next 30-75, and the last 100-150 and same as feeders some get 7+ per bottle farming father and others 2.
    These points don't apply to just paying people or free players its everyone. My last 10 stones I have won have gotten me... Celestial lion, mechanical knight x2, dire bear, war cleric, warhorse x3, doom weaver, and water ele! Every single one I can get unlimited by just game play and daily log in except doom weaver but I can get him from charms. I have been playing 5 months and have used a good amount of stones and the best I have got is one 5* t1 gaznar the rest have been crap by normal game standards. Also with father male it takes me 3-5 bottles to get one back and I get 1-3 raven per bottle. I know what group I am in how about you?

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    I agree to this - getting cards, i hope this is just bad luck, and i hope everyone have same percentage of chance to summoned cards. Can this be confirmend, Aaron?

    The other is the quality of game programming - there are too much strange happenings and mistakes. Also the Arena rewards needs sometime more 7 days to arrive.

    The next is the balance of cards, its some kind of impossible to get a vambreal card - and than there is a card like shiver - just overpowered and everyone got it (except me of course).

    The game itself feels sometime like a Beta - but its paying is even more expensive than a regular games.

    I, seriously like this game very much, so please do something good with it!

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    • #3
      "Good Afternoon,

      Thank you for the update, brightside. I sincerely apologize for the delay in responding to your query.

      There does not appear to be anything wrong with your account. The use of Summoning Stones may not result in particular cards being added to your holdings. Those that are made available are random.

      Thank you for playing Heroes of Camelot!

      Regards,
      Heroes of Camelot Support"


      I completely agree with Slayer. I suspect that split testing is still happening. It may be resolved with v2 but the fact is that it could still be happening now! It's a fact that the devs, not Aaron, have made mistakes and are unable to detect errors in their program.

      The fact is that we are some junior programmer's garage experiment and we are funding their unlimited porn subscription.

      Shall we start a players union and cease buying till we see results?

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      • #4
        There is no split testing. There have been mistakes and bugs, yes. I'll be the first person in the world to admit that. But there is no split testing at present. If there was a way I could prove it to you, I would.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Aaron_Kabam View Post
          There is no split testing. There have been mistakes and bugs, yes. I'll be the first person in the world to admit that. But there is no split testing at present. If there was a way I could prove it to you, I would.
          Since I started I've seen guys get nothing but good cards all the time and others crap. Me 80% of my 3* stones have been mechanical knight, dire bear,& warhorse. Like I have said my best card was one 5* gaznar in 5 months the rest have been 95% 3* and 5% 4* that go with nothing I use. One guy just started and at level 49 he got a vamb, Rhiannon, fire ele, & mechanical knight and complained! I wish!
          Also don't think I blame u in any way Aaron I know ur the middle man that takes all the crap for the devs.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Aaron_Kabam View Post
            There is no split testing. There have been mistakes and bugs, yes. I'll be the first person in the world to admit that. But there is no split testing at present. If there was a way I could prove it to you, I would.
            A simple analysis : pick a sample of players (F2P, low payer, but especially big payers as they have the most summons and therefore representative of drop rates) on all servers, divide the number of 5* and 6* SUMMONED by the TOTAL number of summons (through stones or heoric summons, doesn't matter).

            That'd give a ratio that can easily be compared among players and I'm sure you'll find huge discrepancies there.

            Is that something you can do?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Aaron_Kabam View Post
              There is no split testing. There have been mistakes and bugs, yes. I'll be the first person in the world to admit that. But there is no split testing at present. If there was a way I could prove it to you, I would.

              I'd like to believe this, but I see too many have and have nots in summon results to believe it. Kabam was quite free in split testing and only begrudgingly stopped testing what could PUBLICLY be seen by the players that caused an uproar. With all summoning rates and results behind a veil of secrecy, the players have no proof that further split testing wasn't done at least previously.

              And as we all know, if there isn't an uproar from players, there would be no way in hell Kabam would ever bother to fix any prior split testing pools that were made (or any other error). Kabam thinks it's all kosher to treat certain players like trash in comparison to others by granting widely disparate results (split testing, jackpot lottery secrect shiver day (cause fixing the issue at the cost of a day or two of farming was unthinkable but allowing free gifts to drastically upset balance and screw over payers is perfectly fine), super mana accounts, etc).

              In all cases Kabam has only bother to do anything, even if it was a crap response, when players forced Kabam to do something. So naturally none of us believe the good graces of Kabam that it (a)never screw over players with split summoning pools (my god at least newbies all seem to have a grace period of heightened summon rates--think drug dealer giving first taste for free), (b) even if there was prior (not current) split testing on summon rates that Kabam actually took it's own iniativtive to fix any prior split summoning pools on it's own (ha, ha, haha, ha), or (c) actually did a competent job of programing the summoning code where by god it just happens to be the only single line of code in the game that isn't bugged all to hell (yeah, right...if you can't tell I'm dripping with sarcasm).

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Nexumus View Post
                I'd like to believe this, but I see too many have and have nots in summon results to believe it. Kabam was quite free in split testing and only begrudgingly stopped testing what could PUBLICLY be seen by the players that caused an uproar. With all summoning rates and results behind a veil of secrecy, the players have no proof that further split testing wasn't done at least previously.

                And as we all know, if there isn't an uproar from players, there would be no way in hell Kabam would ever bother to fix any prior split testing pools that were made (or any other error). Kabam thinks it's all kosher to treat certain players like trash in comparison to others by granting widely disparate results (split testing, jackpot lottery secrect shiver day (cause fixing the issue at the cost of a day or two of farming was unthinkable but allowing free gifts to drastically upset balance and screw over payers is perfectly fine), super mana accounts, etc).

                In all cases Kabam has only bother to do anything, even if it was a crap response, when players forced Kabam to do something. So naturally none of us believe the good graces of Kabam that it (a)never screw over players with split summoning pools (my god at least newbies all seem to have a grace period of heightened summon rates--think drug dealer giving first taste for free), (b) even if there was prior (not current) split testing on summon rates that Kabam actually took it's own iniativtive to fix any prior split summoning pools on it's own (ha, ha, haha, ha), or (c) actually did a competent job of programing the summoning code where by god it just happens to be the only single line of code in the game that isn't bugged all to hell (yeah, right...if you can't tell I'm dripping with sarcasm).
                Upvote for not only hitting the nail on the head, but with such pristine writing. I continuously cycle between apathy and zealous opposition to this pathetic development team. A game riddled with bugs and such terrible imbalance issues should not be making this much money. And although it is very satisfying to place my frustrations in a form to have others support my view, eventually it becomes exhausting because we are simply ignored. I just wish there was someway to keep a sticky at the top of the GD forums that informs players of how buggy this game is, how poorly the development team of this game treats its loyal fan base, and how incredibly imbalanced the odds-distributions or "RNGs" really are (so imbalanced that they cannot disclose their drop rates... either because they don't know them, or they are so startlingly low that it would deter people from playing).

                If you are reading this Aaron, I gave it a month, I tried to let you guys patch things up and I have not written a negative review for a while now, but there are so many bugs, so many issues that need to be patched... it's very hard to let these issues go unnoticed, I really think that either you need to go offline and beta test more or you will risk justifying the image that Kabam is a bloodsucking company that has little concern for their customers. If this is the case, I will continue to avid protest on these forums and other social media.

                To Nexumus, good on you brother- fight the system.

                EDIT: Give me my damn streak bonuses back. Your stupid arena bug costed me effectively "2 months" of saving. Ticket: 01869034?

                To the community, I will let you guys know if I am ignored and swept under the rug.

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                • #9
                  Nexum has the gift of the gab for writing stuff

                  But yeah the game is getting really uglier as time passes. The dev chat will become a blood bath. All those who got a decent Shiver are getting through the Vambrael wall like butter.
                  Arena is a mess even without Shiver. A guy with a very solid 300/100K Team (Gaznar T4, 300K HP Tank team) lost to ONE standard tank team @ GA/Horned/Nathra/Stone. That's ridiculous.

                  So much potential on the game put in the wrong hands.

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                  • #10
                    I just lost in arena to someone with half the stats that I got cause his 3rd team kept hitting and wouldn't die, gotta love wasting my streak token and tickets for a 60 ish streak. Thanks again kabam for screwing me over. I'm really glad I don't really play this anymore. And Aaron. I know u know that this game has split groups. Its not split testing now but actual split pools where certain people will always get the same cards and others can't get. The summon stones that kabam is giving away lately is rubbish, I used over 100 of them since they were first introduced into the arena. Guess what cards i got? Hmmm if I remember correctly, I didnt get a single 5* card (anyone surprised?). Aaron, your a mod and a really dishonest one, you keep telling people that you and your dev team know there is bugs and other mistakes, yet you guys don't do anything to fix them and only cause mor bugs. I love when tell us that you guys are working on fixes, but were still waiting for the fixes and yet you guys keep making arenas for people to step into when it's bugged. You and your kabam team is nothing but leeches out to suck all players dry and once thier wallets become empty, you LOL at them. I know this post will get deleted once you read it like all my other posts that speak the truth of you and kabam.

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                    • #11
                      how is the answer.. actually quite a number of top pro already retire or active pro stop top up gem already.
                      How are you going to answer to your management?


                      Originally posted by Aaron_Kabam View Post
                      There is no split testing. There have been mistakes and bugs, yes. I'll be the first person in the world to admit that. But there is no split testing at present. If there was a way I could prove it to you, I would.

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                      • #12
                        i ask for streak bonus compensation too and didnt get it back.



                        Originally posted by Pythrus View Post
                        Upvote for not only hitting the nail on the head, but with such pristine writing. I continuously cycle between apathy and zealous opposition to this pathetic development team. A game riddled with bugs and such terrible imbalance issues should not be making this much money. And although it is very satisfying to place my frustrations in a form to have others support my view, eventually it becomes exhausting because we are simply ignored. I just wish there was someway to keep a sticky at the top of the GD forums that informs players of how buggy this game is, how poorly the development team of this game treats its loyal fan base, and how incredibly imbalanced the odds-distributions or "RNGs" really are (so imbalanced that they cannot disclose their drop rates... either because they don't know them, or they are so startlingly low that it would deter people from playing).

                        If you are reading this Aaron, I gave it a month, I tried to let you guys patch things up and I have not written a negative review for a while now, but there are so many bugs, so many issues that need to be patched... it's very hard to let these issues go unnoticed, I really think that either you need to go offline and beta test more or you will risk justifying the image that Kabam is a bloodsucking company that has little concern for their customers. If this is the case, I will continue to avid protest on these forums and other social media.

                        To Nexumus, good on you brother- fight the system.

                        EDIT: Give me my damn streak bonuses back. Your stupid arena bug costed me effectively "2 months" of saving. Ticket: 01869034?

                        To the community, I will let you guys know if I am ignored and swept under the rug.

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                        • #13
                          bump again for pipi.

                          I did get 5/6 star from stone but anyway split pool player we cant tell and hard to prove. Only now is fix immorality bug first.

                          Originally posted by Pipipupu View Post
                          I just lost in arena to someone with half the stats that I got cause his 3rd team kept hitting and wouldn't die, gotta love wasting my streak token and tickets for a 60 ish streak. Thanks again kabam for screwing me over. I'm really glad I don't really play this anymore. And Aaron. I know u know that this game has split groups. Its not split testing now but actual split pools where certain people will always get the same cards and others can't get. The summon stones that kabam is giving away lately is rubbish, I used over 100 of them since they were first introduced into the arena. Guess what cards i got? Hmmm if I remember correctly, I didnt get a single 5* card (anyone surprised?). Aaron, your a mod and a really dishonest one, you keep telling people that you and your dev team know there is bugs and other mistakes, yet you guys don't do anything to fix them and only cause mor bugs. I love when tell us that you guys are working on fixes, but were still waiting for the fixes and yet you guys keep making arenas for people to step into when it's bugged. You and your kabam team is nothing but leeches out to suck all players dry and once thier wallets become empty, you LOL at them. I know this post will get deleted once you read it like all my other posts that speak the truth of you and kabam.

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                          • #14
                            There is nothing we can tell or prove because Aaron and his kabam team won't tell us anything. Aaron is basically the live voice for kabam support giving the same vague answers or tell us he can't disclose. If kabam discloses any facts, they be out of the scamming business. I been around since week one of beta testing. 6 months later and its worst then back in beta. Still no answers from anyone from the kabam team. I see the same patterns over and over. They screw up and never bother to fix it. I thought this was one of the best games that came along when i started playing. Now, this is the worst game that came along because of incompetent devs and mods that screwed up the game

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                            • #15
                              I can share my experience as well. Since I started playing I spent like 500 euros. For that I got no legendary, 3 cards that were 5*, couple of 4* and tons of 3* feeders. If you sum it up I paid like 170 euro for each useful pixel art (not so useful since I don't find the other cards to make combos though). Of course, all stones I get from arena prizes are 3* feeders. I'm pretty sure stones from arena have a lower chance of summoning good cards, even though paid stones have very low chance as well. It's the most expensive game I ever played and you gotta love when people get vambrael or rhiannon from a single summon stone and never spent a dime. Even more, Aaron steps up and says they only got 6 engineers. I bet those 6 engineers are working on all kabam games, which makes like half a person or less working for each game and I wouldn't call them engineers either since they can't make a difference between a guardian angel and a shiver. For such an expensive game having so few people to handle the game and letting all retarded persons replying to support tickets is a disgrace and an offense to players.

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