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It is not fair card design about Shiverheart !!

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  • Shishi Sonson
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    Originally posted by Aaron_Kabam View Post

    Hi Kyoyotfrmots,

    I do know that Shiverheart is quite strong as an individual card. But Shiverheart also doesn't have the powerful combos that other 6-star cards have. Rhiannon, Vambrael, Galzra and Galahad can combine with all sorts of other cards to create hugely powerful teams. But Shiverheart...he's on his own little island.

    you destroy game balance with your own hands.Why did you give Legend cards on ice cave if this card 4* or 5* like sun mage or khufu etc np also you dont arrange any event drop rate.some people kill 50 boss and get 4 cards some people kill 100 boss but no cards ? What the hell is this ? My server best 2 player have 6 and 7 shiver and i killed more than them..how to reach them ? if i waste my money to stone MAYBE reach them.I am waiting your decision accordingly break this game.I cant imagine that how to you ruin this game like that.I though but didnt find anything.

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  • Noob_5LRXDTX
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    Originally posted by Kyoyotfrmots View Post
    1. Shiverheart's T2 point equal to other 6* card T3 point
    2. Shiverheart's skill activate rate is very higher. especially in an increase skill proc team like Stone Ancient with Nathra Verdaine...
    3. one card generate two even three card performance. ( major damage add reduce enemy attack)
    4. one card! it just one card!! it does not even need combos!

    May I ask how do you explain above three ?

    it can easily destroy an different class team evan don't need any combo because opposite will no any damage.

    You might say it is difficult to obtain. haha...
    in ice-labyrinth week. at least four partner have made four or more shiverheart in my team.
    we just use 250-300 mana potion!
    Aaron ?
    how do you explain above four ?

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  • Super Noobyyy
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    Originally posted by soulstryfe View Post
    I disagree with you aaron. He may not have combo listed on the card itself, but he does combo with other cards. Think about the gods combo or the nathra, stone ancient, horned lord combo. In both cases, the combo triggers on all cards in group, not just the 3 that make up the combo. So he in fact can be part of combos. What is more deadly about him is that because of this flawed reasoning, he can combo with these groups in a particularly frightening way. Imagine him in either of those combos. 200% health increase to a card that will likely at least 150k health? 100% increase and increase proc rate to a card like that in the other combo? Kinda crazy.

    I agree to compensate the card a little based on the fact that it has no innate combos, but kabam stat weights are really screwed up to make a card like that in my opinion.

    If you gave me the choice of picking a full tier legendary for any of the other combos or picking a full tier shiver, id take shiver hands down. Why? because he has ridiculously inflated stats and i can put him in 3 or 4 other groups where he can be a part of some really o.p. combos (gaznar, nathra, gods, just to name a few)

    put it this way too. the other legendary cards need a combo to see their full strength and that is with having lower base stats. so they are weaker and need a combo to have any real purpose in a deck. shiver does not. he functions completely well without a combo and on top of that has higher base stats and can join other groups combos. He is like a triple threat.

    I dont mind him being a card that people can get, but you guys should make it pretty close to impossible to max evolve him. if you end up putting him in with your purchase scheme where anyone can get relatively easy, he will break the arena. there will be this giant gulf between the top players with him and without him. the gulf between paying players and not is already pretty big. This will just widen that gap pretty remarkably. You can already see what this kind of thing has done in the arena with cards like gaznar, just sayin.....
    +1 man. That card is so sick that it's a must have. That's Gaznar number 2. A T4 evolved with 4 cards would have at least 100K HP + 25K DMG, but probably more so put that one into a Gods combo and you get a great tank group. Or a Team 2 with Horned lord to deal 50K+ dmg AND reduce 25K DPS to all team almost every turn.

    He has the best stats ever and I can easily see him get to 140/35K with 6 cards.

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  • soulstryfe
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    Originally posted by Aaron_Kabam View Post

    Hi Kyoyotfrmots,

    I do know that Shiverheart is quite strong as an individual card. But Shiverheart also doesn't have the powerful combos that other 6-star cards have. Rhiannon, Vambrael, Galzra and Galahad can combine with all sorts of other cards to create hugely powerful teams. But Shiverheart...he's on his own little island.

    I disagree with you aaron. He may not have combo listed on the card itself, but he does combo with other cards. Think about the gods combo or the nathra, stone ancient, horned lord combo. In both cases, the combo triggers on all cards in group, not just the 3 that make up the combo. So he in fact can be part of combos. What is more deadly about him is that because of this flawed reasoning, he can combo with these groups in a particularly frightening way. Imagine him in either of those combos. 200% health increase to a card that will likely at least 150k health? 100% increase and increase proc rate to a card like that in the other combo? Kinda crazy.

    I agree to compensate the card a little based on the fact that it has no innate combos, but kabam stat weights are really screwed up to make a card like that in my opinion.

    If you gave me the choice of picking a full tier legendary for any of the other combos or picking a full tier shiver, id take shiver hands down. Why? because he has ridiculously inflated stats and i can put him in 3 or 4 other groups where he can be a part of some really o.p. combos (gaznar, nathra, gods, just to name a few)

    put it this way too. the other legendary cards need a combo to see their full strength and that is with having lower base stats. so they are weaker and need a combo to have any real purpose in a deck. shiver does not. he functions completely well without a combo and on top of that has higher base stats and can join other groups combos. He is like a triple threat.

    I dont mind him being a card that people can get, but you guys should make it pretty close to impossible to max evolve him. if you end up putting him in with your purchase scheme where anyone can get relatively easy, he will break the arena. there will be this giant gulf between the top players with him and without him. the gulf between paying players and not is already pretty big. This will just widen that gap pretty remarkably. You can already see what this kind of thing has done in the arena with cards like gaznar, just sayin.....

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  • Kyoyotfrmots
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    Originally posted by Aaron_Kabam View Post

    Hi Kyoyotfrmots,

    I do know that Shiverheart is quite strong as an individual card. But Shiverheart also doesn't have the powerful combos that other 6-star cards have. Rhiannon, Vambrael, Galzra and Galahad can combine with all sorts of other cards to create hugely powerful teams. But Shiverheart...he's on his own little island.


    1. Shiverheart's T2 point equal to other 6* card T3 point
    2. Shiverheart's skill activate rate is very higher. especially in an increase skill proc team like Stone Ancient with Nathra Verdaine...
    3. one card generate two even three card performance. ( major damage add reduce enemy attack)
    4. one card! it just one card!! it does not even need combos!

    May I ask how do you explain above three ?

    it can easily destroy an different class team evan don't need any combo because opposite will no any damage.

    You might say it is difficult to obtain. haha...
    in ice-labyrinth week. at least four partner have made four or more shiverheart in my team.
    we just use 250-300 mana potion!

    Leave a comment:


  • Aaron_Kabam
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    Originally posted by Kyoyotfrmots View Post
    Nobody feel the card is very very ****ing stronger Compared with other 6* card , No matter the card's quality or skill.
    my friend has the tier2 Shiverheart and going to be about Tier4 in the near future.

    Shiverheart Tier2 = 45254 hp and 10776 attack. this almost others 6* card Tier3 point

    after recently test. Shiverheart can deal 50% itself max HP to be damage and reduce enemy on itself 150% attack point
    if Shiverheart have 140000 hp and 40000 attack in Tier4.
    you guy guess what will happen ?
    It will be trigger it's skill deal 70000 damage and reduce 60000 attack for enemy party each round? scary?

    i don't know kabam why design this card ? Just because it is a new card ?

    The old 6* star card with him than it is like garbage!!

    Hi Kyoyotfrmots,

    I do know that Shiverheart is quite strong as an individual card. But Shiverheart also doesn't have the powerful combos that other 6-star cards have. Rhiannon, Vambrael, Galzra and Galahad can combine with all sorts of other cards to create hugely powerful teams. But Shiverheart...he's on his own little island.

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    Guest started a topic It is not fair card design about Shiverheart !!

    It is not fair card design about Shiverheart !!

    Nobody feel the card is very very ****ing stronger Compared with other 6* card , No matter the card's quality or skill.
    my friend has the tier2 Shiverheart and going to be about Tier4 in the near future.

    Shiverheart Tier2 = 45254 hp and 10776 attack. this almost others 6* card Tier3 point

    after recently test. Shiverheart can deal 50% itself max HP to be damage and reduce enemy on itself 150% attack point
    if Shiverheart have 140000 hp and 40000 attack in Tier4.
    you guy guess what will happen ?
    It will be trigger it's skill deal 70000 damage and reduce 60000 attack for enemy party each round? scary?

    i don't know kabam why design this card ? Just because it is a new card ?

    The old 6* star card with him than it is like garbage!!
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