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Thread: Abusing glitches and bugs in Battleground

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    bratty it looks that the grief player is you and if that wasn't enough you are coward as well to make a new account and post under different name. Is good that you brought up Damide, I'm actually glad - he's a perfect example of cheating and abuse. My "grief" if you want to call it that way was related to him "miraculously" winning 3 forum contests in a row at the very last minute (and believe it or not I wasn't the only person who noticed this); let's remember this is coming from a person who would set alarm at 4am to do his last sylph arena attempt to outplay others and then proceed to start forum drama if he got outsmarted by other time zones. He would also crack down on his guild mates for missing GBs, change the BR of toons he was trusted with to steal their title, spread gossip to recruit top players from other guilds, intimidate and blackmail and a lot of other shady things to serve his personal interest.

    All I see you say is a lot of bashing because your buddies cannot free farm anymore and by collective effort (this was not my decision alone) they actually have to work like all other players to get their kills and honor. Why would anyone have special privilege and be granted exception to exploit the system? Noticed how I didn't name anyone in particular, I have nothing against player x,y,z but we were targeting the whole group who was frustrating players daily. Many important players who spend a lot more than myself were upset by BG abusers; we are hoping to limit or stop abuse of all types and encourage everyone to report abusive behavior directly to Gaea or any of the forum moderators. All this information will be confidential and action will be taken against cheating and abuse - the goal is to make the game a positive environment for people of all levels and battle ratings. Trolls, free loaders, exploiters and abusers are never welcome in any gaming community.
    Last edited by RheA; 09-14-2017 at 05:30 PM.

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    Alright. So after few conversation in battleground last few days I have a question to you Rhea since you represent heroes assembly here. Seems like situation when you bring in a second toon to BG bit you both get kills on same side or opposite sides it's not cheating as long as one not gets 30 kills and second none. 3Is that true? Just confirm. Because all the using glitch doesn't make sense now. And I'd like to ask for solution how Gaea and your cool kids club wants to improve Batlleground because since two weeks in week days i haven't seen more than 7vs7 battleground. Ofc in every single one towers been taken immidentialy so bg was half short. How do you want max your honor? How do you want enjoy pvp rivalry? I totally agree with Archavian. Gaea doesn't want ban players. Your heroes assembly aka cool kids club wants this but I don't see like people enjoy battleground now. Oh btw. Those WARNING mails are selective aren't they? Because I know that many didn't receive them somehow. I'm sure your teammates as well. Unless ParvySage gets some kills from Knight78 but so far I didn't notice. Could you answer how you or Gaea plans improve battleground? I mean I don't even ask a fact that guild battle rewards haven't changed since day 1 of the game of we request for mount spirit exchange since years. Or what about adv fashion shards? What they are for? But ok. Battle ground. Simple questions. Please use simple English for me to let me understood. Waiting nicely.

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    I will try to detail my answer as much as possible; before anything, we moderators or Gaea don't have intention to warn players and ban them without a good reason; kills trading between friends/guildmates even alts has been happening since the game exists, in all battleground brackets it's not something new that we discovered and suddenly are opposing it because we don't like a certain player or certain group of players.

    No one is being absurd - players will not get warned or banned for helping out fellow friends or guildmates in battleground; however there is a huge difference between helping out and systematic farming in enemy spawn camp abusing a game mechanic glitch that makes you invulnerable to outside attacks with clear goal in mind to score as many kills as possible in the BG time window.

    Some will argue "why not fix that glitch then" - who tried to write code understands that a seemingly easy issue cannot be corrected by rewriting 50 lines of code or flipping a magic switch; the developers tried doing many things before but unfortunately it was just a partial fix that didn't stop or slow down abusers from continuing their farming for months in a row (they found new way to continue what they were doing before).

    There were informal warnings given out to abusers several times and years passed before this activity became officially a problem, this wasn't an impulse decision coming out of nowhere. Practice shows that a top BR player cannot consistently get more than 20-25 kills/bg while abusers would sometimes double that easily using stripped alts - everyone's question is why does a 1M BR toon made years ago need 30-50 kills in bg every day? even for Grim Reaper title is not plausible, only acceptable logic is cross server PvP ranking and Road Warrior title; no ranking and titles should be available to cheaters and exploiters; in some games cheaters cannot even compete online vs other players.

    Now about holding towers / low score for winning BG that generates very short BGs and impossibility of getting enough kills and honor in reasonable time: this was a very old discussion with several solutions proposed but nothing has been decided yet; we are aware of this problem and will try to push for a fix, as well; in the meantime I'll suggest a legitimate workaround for all who are consistently placed in battlegrounds that end before the 14 minute mark: you can exit early, before the BG ends (although if you are on benefits you will miss out on rewards), wait the 5 minute penalty time and join back no later than the 19th minute of the hour for the opportunity of getting additional honor and kills in a second battleground in the same time slot; usually the second battleground is less crowded and it's easier to get a few more kills - this is probably not the perfect solution but may help some of the players.
    Last edited by RheA; 09-14-2017 at 07:08 PM.

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    Alright. Before I'll answer for the rest of point I want to confirm. If someone "helps" to guild mate or spouse of friend out of respawn, let's say in middle or top of field and as long as the number of kills is not unreal and fair to both toons we can say theoretically it's not cheat of manipulate by using glitch. Is this correct? I just want to make it clear. You know. I see situation like this everyday several times doing by same people who already used to do that for ages. Will they get any consequences any soon or you as Gaea represent allow to doing "fair help"?
    And solution for early ending BGs by towers is simple easy. Remove them. Set the 25 min w/o any points cap is another option. Let's work for the win by killing. Not hugging towers.

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    Positive experience you say?

    I don't know, you could have started by fixing the disconnect issue that has plagued people for months and months now.

    No one wants to go into battleground and disconnect constantly to have to keep relogging in. Granted it has improved slightly, this is the problem with battleground.

    Banning people that abusing whatever bug it is they are using isn't fixing the real underlining issue with battleground. I'll admit, I have used alts myself to feed myself kills but I have not glitched into this spawn area. I knew it existed somehow but it is just much easier to slap on a double honor scroll, get the few kills needed and leave. No point abusing the system, in fact I haven't even obtained road warrior title for months. Go look at the people that actually obtain road warrior titles and use them to ban.

    Again, the underlining issue isn't banning these people that abuse it, the underlining problem is people hate battleground. High level br's can't get kills because people get sick of disconnecting or not having enough people in a battleground to get kills. And why? The problem isn't alts, the problem is all the other issues like disconnecting randomly on ****.

    Focus on the real problems, not these stupid ban things that do nothing. It isn't hard to see that higher br's will whine that they can't get kills now, clearly because there isn't enough people. And why aren't there enough people? DUH! Disconnect issues, rewards etc. People have zero incentive to go into battleground and get kills unless there is a kill event. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to see this.

    Spend a day on each server and look at what people say about battleground. A few handful of people that use this stupid glitch isn't the problem. Sure it is an issue that needs to be addressed, but who the fk cares when you go into a battleground and there is only 3-4 people on each side! On non kill event days.
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    Bg

    I enjoy bg and do attack anyone walking by, yes I cashed to get my br so it's a legitimate kill or why would Gaea sell items. If that's going to be a problem on forward I would like a refund because gaea made this available. How about banning those who call me cu..t,b..sh, other profanities words. I don't do bg everyday because I work but the weekends I like doing bg because it's fun and there are more people. One thing I always hear is you got your 20 kills why you attacking. 1st cause it's a pvp game,2nd grim reaper this the only time I can try to get kills,3rd you didn't pay for my toon so you shouldn't tell me how to play. So if this will be a problem for Gaea those who paid and is playing how a game is intended we should get refunds, so we can go back Game Of War or any other war games. Adults who are not busy-bodies don't care what others do,we are just here to have fun. We could careless if xyz get pvp title or use alts to get their 20. Remove that title if it's an issue.

    Ps since your catering to the complainers, next ask them why did you level so fast.
    But truly if want to give refunds I'm all for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaMaS12 View Post
    If someone "helps" to guild mate or spouse of friend out of respawn, let's say in middle or top of field and as long as the number of kills is not unreal and fair to both toons we can say theoretically it's not cheat of manipulate by using glitch. Is this correct? I just want to make it clear.

    seems like, as long as you don't glitch your way inside enemy camp, that situation is OK.

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    Oh btw

    I just got disconnected for looking at the members list in my guild. How about that gets fixed first before jumping on something else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SunnyS79 View Post
    I just got disconnected for looking at the members list in my guild. How about that gets fixed first before jumping on something else.
    Slow effect on archer freeze arrow in cw/tw/ew and bg pvp instances worked for a single month in 4 plus years. Kabam had fixed it and a month later broke it again on an update. Never addressed again. How bout regen astral in these same pvp instances. These are just a few other more important things to be concerned about.

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    Rhea, why am I being faulted for your selective alexia? So I'm guilty of using that glitch in your DNA or your bad DNA design is my fault now? Just because I'm not a forum fan I must be a new account? Why? Because I can't and won't buy your bullpucky or I see through your garbage?

    I like it how you incriminate yourself in your own words. And yes, I do admit I detest your holier-than-thou. I didn't know you see it as your role to police other guilds, oh but wait... you covertly plant your spy alts everywhere while you deplore others who overtly own alts? And on Damide's 'sins'.. man .. you just detailed a scary stalker. That's how you prey on your current target? A crafty grief player you are.

    You are all about yourself and pursuing your own personal agenda, manipulating and obfuscating facts and veer them towards serving your own personal agenda to get your target destroyed before you move on to the next one and in the process screw the rest. Your refusal to see the obvious is glaring. Your claim on improving our gaming experience is as good as a prostitute extolling celibates and espousing the virtues of celibacy.

    Bg today is about efficient kills, no of kills/time taken. We go for larger numerator and smaller denominator. For 6000 honor at 178 per kill we need 6000/178=33.7kills. 34 kills in 14 mins means 25s per kill. Factor in downtime, we've only got 20s per kill. How are 25s kills like? Fix the impractical numbers ffs. Players are saying if you have ED you take viagra, Rhea is saying no, you have ED, eunuchism is the only solution, chop it off.

    Bottom line is, Rhea refuse to see the obvious because revised numbers and a better bg, fixing dc, astrals will not serve his agenda and get his target destroyed. He is intensely focussed on one thing, if you guys still can't read it, that intense one that will bring more grief but destroy his target, the goal, and the bonafide players are merely his convenient accessory in his pursuit.

    I hardly farm kills because I'm too lazy to. I'd rather farm Rhea but I'm ok with those who do. It's a lot of work too and I understand why they had to do it. I don't feel cheated when I'm lazy myself. And on Rhea's legitimate workaround.. we are in this game for fun, not a concentration camp for misery. Let me tell you where I feel cheated. Sylph arena. My red sylphs cost me a lot of money, only to have the rug pulled from under my feet by those with 200k br below mine. Cheated of my rewards and title every week. I still think the right thing to do is to plug that shait.

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